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Post by Meekro »

tim333 wrote: post #75

Comparing the Elon Musk articles between Grokipedia and Wikipedia, the first factual difference is with Tesla: >..Musk founded SpaceX in 2002 as CEO and chief engineer, Tesla in 2003 ... (grok) >Musk joined the automaker Tesla as an early investor in 2004 and became its CEO ... (wikipedia) I think Wikipedia is more accurate on that one.

You're right, that's definitely a mistake. Though to be fair, the same article gets it right if you scroll down to the Tesla section. The article on Tesla also gets it right.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by croes »

a0123 wrote: post #110
croes wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>A prevailing narrative depicts apartheid as a system of unremitting total oppression for black South Africans, yet empirical data indicate substantial advancements in black literacy and real wages during the era. This is a false contradiction. You can oppress people and still pay them higher wages and fight illteracy.

No you can't. You also don't seem to understand "apologetics"?

So by your logic the people of the german democratic republic weren’t oppressed because they got free education and proper wages. I think the citizens saw that differently.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by benrutter »

Putting aside my political concerns about Elon Musk starting an encyclopedia, I thought I'd look up the indie rock band Beat Happening as a tester. My first thoughts were that it was very impressive. There's a confused garbled image link (that appears as text) but otherwise it looks convincing:

> Beat Happening was an American indie pop band formed in Olympia, Washington, in 1982 by vocalist and guitarist Calvin Johnson, guitarist Heather Lewis, and drummer Bret Lunsford.

Then I though, hey let's see what wikipedia says, here it is:

> Beat Happening was an American indie pop band formed in Olympia, Washington in 1982. Calvin Johnson, Heather Lewis, and Bret Lunsford were the band's continual members.

I came away less impressed- grokipedia's opening paragraph reads to me like a very minor rephrase. I assume wikipedia is in the training data here and being spat back out?

In fact going back to the garbled image link:

> ![Beat Happening in 1988. Clockwise from top: Calvin Johnson, Bret Lunsford, Heather Lewis.](./assets/Beat_Happening_(1988_Rough_Trade_publicity_photo)

Even this seems to be a reference to the wilipedia image at the top of the article titled:

> File:Beat Happening (1988 Rough Trade publicity photo).jpg

What a collosal waste of resources? Is anyone under the impression that this kind of "rephrased and lesss acurate wikipedia" is going to be helpful?

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by undeveloper »

txcwg002 wrote: post #135
a0123 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you grow up to be an adult, you will understand that "objectivity"is a fiction. And an encyclopedia can absolutely do that and still present factual information based on actual research and facts. You know that just because a lady has blue hair or a person has colored skin does NOT mean that they can't be right about something or do good research. Right? You do know it, right? Because in the end, when you cry ab…

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I really don't mean to be rude but you sound insane. You have spent too much time in whatever insulated twitter space you're in, and you've ended up sounding like an insane person! Please go do independent research on these topics, so you can try not saying things like "DEI virtue signaling white knights". You just strung together 3 separate buzzwords (buzzphrase?)

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by ben_w »

HK-NC wrote: post #134
ben_w wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To oversimplify somewhat, the reason geneticists describe "race" as a social construct is that classifying everyone into a handful of buckets created by Victorians and based on people's dermal melanin density, fails to cut reality at its joints. For a more detailed response: https://bioanth.org/about/aaba-statement-on-race-racism/ If you take various different African populations, you'll find they're genetically dive…

I didn't mention skin tone.

Am I to understand that you are unaware that "race" is "skin tone" in much of the Anglosphere? This specific mapping, and the uselessness of the categories, is the core of why "race" is seen as a social construct.

The categorical divisions that translate as "race" are different in other parts of the world, and that they are so varied demonstrates the same point: it's a socially defined categorisation system. These other divisions too are necessarily superficial, though with a language barrier as well as a cultural barrier I cannot compare their usage to the racial categories I grew up with.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by thiht »

hagbard_c wrote: post #84
thiht wrote: post #49

Thanks for sharing, added to my blocklist!

May I ask why you directly added it to your blocklist? I can see several potential reasons people block sites and I wonder which is the leading one for you.

I don’t need to access the far right echo chamber of a fucking nazi billionaire. MAGA are liars and they believe truth is "left-biased". To them "unbiased" means "fits how I want the world to be". There’s absolutely no objectivity to expect from Grok, Grokipedia, Twitter. It’s the same shit as Conservapedia.

That they attack Wikipedia because it’s somehow fake is proof enough that Grokipedia is gonna become a fascist cesspool.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by dev2roofer »

Kinda funny how Grokipedia looks like an encyclopedia but clearly talks like an LLM. Lots of confidence, not so much evidence.

It’s not that it’s trying to lie — it’s just how these models work. They’re great at making language sound right, not necessarily be right. Feels more like a mirror of what the internet “thinks” than an actual source of truth.

If they framed it that way — more experiment, less Wikipedia — I think people would take it a lot better.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by [deleted] »

thiht wrote: post #146
hagbard_c wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I ask why you directly added it to your blocklist? I can see several potential reasons people block sites and I wonder which is the leading one for you.

I don’t need to access the far right echo chamber of a fucking nazi billionaire. MAGA are liars and they believe truth is "left-biased". To them "unbiased" means "fits how I want the world to be". There’s absolutely no objectivity to expect from Grok, Grokipedia, Twitter. It’s the same shit as Conservapedia. That they attack Wikipedia because it’s somehow fake is proof enough that Grokipedia is gonna become a fascist…

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Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by superkuh »

I remember when I was a kid I childishly edited the Bible so that all occurances of 'god' or 'lord' and the like were replaced with my nickname. I then uploaded these altered copies all over the 1990s internet. This seems like pretty much the same energy.
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