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"dedicated.....to making stupidity an intellectual ideal".
That is a great insult!
Grokipedia and the coup against reality
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#122Seems to confirm Elon Musk is evil, no? Especially when considered along with his political "antics" and behaviors? Gaslighting at this scale is unconscionable.
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> If anyone knew Elon Musk existed by the time of the Thai cave rescue and didn't determine from that who he really is, they may not be perceptive.
Took me a while after that to accept it wasn't just an aberration.
My perspective now is that it continues a pattern of behaviour also seen with his response to Top Gear; it's just that when he reacted to Top Gear, I had an even lower regard for Top Gear…
> I don't know that "evil" is a really useful word to fling around, full stop, because it's actually quite subjective.
I agree. FWIW, I think "evil" is mostly a strong overlap with dark triad personality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad
But clearly the word is used far more broadly, and it does not reliably keep any meaning from one person to the next.
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#123This reminds me of a joke website I pondered making a few years ago 'provemeright.com'. If you are in a bar and you make an outrageous claim and don't want to back down, provemeright.com has your back! Give us 10 min and we will edit wikipedia and create a website with your 'fact' on it!... It was a funny joke when it wasn't real.
Wikipedia, and it's volunteer of editors are extremely quick at checking edits. In university, we once create a page for my room mate and listed his admirable, but odd quirks. It was taken down in a matter of minutes.
New pages go to a specific pending review queue. Edits on existing unprotected pages are less scrutinised
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly this always works. It has never failed.
Much of Eastern Europe has seen rapid improvements since the fall of the Soviet Union. Moldova elected a pro-EU instead of sliding into alt-right territory. So to declare it (or anything) never fails is never going to be true. Looking to Russia as an example, what hasn't been failing? They went from being #2 to being a a pariah state
While I broadly agree with you, Russia is not a useful example for this point: the failures as a state to be a good place for normal people to live in are not the important failures, instead look specifically at the oligarchs within it and the power they wield, the money they've made.
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#125'Coup Against Reality Itself' seems a bit of an over reaction to Musk's attempt to do a slightly less woke version of Wikipedia. If you try reading it, it's not terrible. It waffles on a bit in the usual LLM fashion. There's some HN discussion of it here which got flagged for some reason https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45726459
Most of it is just generic slop, you have to find the specific pages that interest Musk where he has clearly stuck his finger on the scales to make it say what he wants.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because I dont know who this person is, this sentence gives me absolutely no information about the subject or the person posting it.
The highest post in the chain we're in: >PSA: author is Alejandra Caraballo [...] The reply: >Yep, this whole article is basically just -->his My reply: >Alejandra Caraballo is a woman. I'm correcting them.
Was the user mistaken or just anti trans? Were you correcting a mistake or asserting your/Caraballo's opinion?
It just struck me that the word has no meaning now is all.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for the reply. "an alternative Wikipedia with a different editorial bias" I think the stated goal is to reduce bias, not to just rotate it to another view. Of course some things are difficult to reduce to facts, but plenty of others are not.
> reduce bias, not to just rotate it to another view This is not possible.
Of course it is. You're saying there is no objective truth, and there is not point in trying for it?
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Unsurprising. I just quickly read through the Wiki and the Groki articles on "transgender" and they are entirely different, and the author certainly wouldn't appreciate the latter.
The wikipedia article presents the entire thing as fact without any critique or controversy somehow (funnily enough the authors BlueSky page proudly shares a Star Wars quote: "The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil...") While the grok article is just an AI wall of shit that somehow treads totally different ground.
What a dumb time to be alive.
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#129people on the autism spectrum are amazingly good at what they're good at and spectacularly bad at what they're bad at. I wish Musk would just stick to what he's good at like SpaceX and Tesla etc.
Is he even good at rockets and cars or is he just good at hyping them up and attracting funding?
Rockets, yes, he's good at them.
Cars… not great, but good enough to turn Tesla from a joke into an OK company selling in a "Blue Ocean"* market. Which isn't nothing, but then a bunch of other electric car companies popped up and now Tesla cars are solidly B-tier… well, except for the Cybertruck which is just a flop.
Re: Grokipedia and the coup against reality
#130Seems to confirm Elon Musk is evil, no? Especially when considered along with his political "antics" and behaviors? Gaslighting at this scale is unconscionable.
I think how he treated his daughter or bribed women to have his kids was already pretty bad? this isn't really news about musk being morally awful
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