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Please, do explain to everyone what you think is biased about it, and why.

Their headlines include lines about marching against fascists and calling people toadies. This would indicate their bias is rather left.

So you're admitting that the right is fascist.

We already knew that, but it's so nice of you to admit it.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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These billionaires don't have a solid feedback loop back to reality

Think about the world's poorest man, and how disconnected he is from the rest of humanity. Now think of the world's richest man. They are equally disconnected.

The world's poorest man probably has tens millions of peers within an order of magnitude of "poorness".

The world's richest man has at most a few hundred.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Its impressive how well Bezos has convinced everyone to stop trusting WaPo rather than WaPo convincing everyone to trust Bezos. A paper owned by a wealthy financial interest was hardly unique or novel at the time he took them over, and no one would have been more concerned about it than they already were, and all he had to do was not be overt in his influence and bias of it, but he couldn't refrain.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/28/jeff-bezo...

He even wrote an editorial saying "the news media isnt trusted, we have to do better".

Then he decided he didnt want to do better.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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If you think this kind of reporting is cool, you should donate to https://fair.org . Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) has been exposing two-faced news for decades. They are worthy of your attention.

And now that Zuck has nuked Facebook AI Research org, they get their acronymic exclusivity back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAIR_(Mormon_apologetics_organ...

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Your understanding of the word objective differs markedly from my own. I don’t disagree with the general spirit of what you mean. But I would love to see news outlets, and so called watch dogs, pursue the unobtainable dream of objectivity and neutrality over all others. Calling people toadies and democratically elected administrations “fascists” falls far, far short of that dream.

Except, the news calling, for example, Bush Jr a "War criminal" is exactly objective. His Casus Belli was false, and he knew that. We invaded sovereign countries illegally. Would you read news that openly called him a war criminal? Reality gets extreme all the time. If you police the language more than the reality, you are just making the problem worse. You are forcing people to pretend reality isn't so bad just so y…

Was GW Bush convicted of any war crimes? If not, then he isn't a war criminal.

You can argue that he should be, and I probably would agree with you, but an organization supposedly dedicated to unearthing biases in the media should not inject their opinions into their own reporting.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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I 100% agree, but need to add that npr also has financial ties to very powerful oligarchs that need to be disclosed. For example, here is what I get when researching the largest donors to npr: "NPR's largest single donor was the estate of Joan B. Kroc, who left a bequest of over $200 million in 2003. Other major donors include foundations like the Rockefeller Foundation, the MacArthur Foundation, and the Robert Wood…

I don't listen to NPR, but when I watch PBS Newshour they announce all their sponsors at the beginning of every program and mention the fact of their sponsorship again when there's any connection to an individual report. A recent example that springs to mind if the train derailment and subsequent pollution problems in East Palestine, Ohio; the rail firm BNSF sponsors the newshour but this didn't seem to have any impact on the volume or tone of coverage.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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These billionaires don't have a solid feedback loop back to reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBZTHxZvOwg - this show was soooo good...

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see Musk or Thiel make those exact same arguments.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Yeah, my line for calling someone fascist is not “restricting reporters access to the Pentagon”. It cheapens the word and all that it represents. There is a wide gulf between writing with basic clarity and injecting opinions like “so and so is a toady”. I would love to see media outlets attempt to describe just the facts with as little opinion as possible. FAIR clearly does not meet that bar.

In what scenario does a fascist not restrict freedom of the press as one of their steps?

It is a necessary but not sufficient condition. But this is not that. This is, “you don’t have unfettered access to personnel and facilities.” Fascism would be “if you print that we will arrest you and maybe shut your operation down.” And maybe a paramilitary squad of goons will fire bomb your offices in the meantime. This will read as snark, but I swear it is not: read about the truly fascist regimes of history. The difference is night and day.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Its impressive how well Bezos has convinced everyone to stop trusting WaPo rather than WaPo convincing everyone to trust Bezos. A paper owned by a wealthy financial interest was hardly unique or novel at the time he took them over, and no one would have been more concerned about it than they already were, and all he had to do was not be overt in his influence and bias of it, but he couldn't refrain.

I think many people (and the parent comment) are getting played because they don't realize the game and its stakes:

'Trust' is an issue under the old rules, in a context where an essentially democratic, free society was desired by all and where therefore public trust and a well-informed public mattered.

The new rules are about power alone, which is essentially anti-democratic. Bezos has power and he demonstrates it - demonstration is essential under the new rules - by mocking and thumbing his nose at trust and at informing the public. He uses his power to bend public opinion his way; lots of people still read the Post, and in a post-truth world, truth doesn't matter to many of them. He doesn't care about trust, and he actively and intentionally demonstrates it.

It's the context of post-truth philosophy: Words are about power, they are weapons; they are not about truth, expression, or information.

The worship (rather than distrust) of power, post-truth, it all leads to the non-democratic outcome.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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does it similarly make you sad if your operating system tells you to update for new security patches or indicators? the sheer volume of browser exploits - including in-the-wild exploited zero-click zero days - is frankly insane. intentionally leaving yourself unprotected is a bad choice that should be shoved back in your face, often. > i see it everywhere. i see it nowhere. update your software! and don't use chrome.

they were not informing him of an insecurity. and software monoculture is widely considered a security threat, and so by pushing software monoculture, you yourself are pushing to weaken internet security. GP should potentially be applauded (if he's not using for example IE6)

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