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Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Do we really hold editorials to the same standard as the rest of the news? These are opinion pieces, you should expect bias, no?

An individual editorial? No. At the meta level when an outlet only allows a specific direction of bias, that doesn't feel like a good idea to accept.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Its impressive how well Bezos has convinced everyone to stop trusting WaPo rather than WaPo convincing everyone to trust Bezos. A paper owned by a wealthy financial interest was hardly unique or novel at the time he took them over, and no one would have been more concerned about it than they already were, and all he had to do was not be overt in his influence and bias of it, but he couldn't refrain.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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> And it has survived without continual extra investment. It has not. The Guardian loses millions every year. I think it made money one year in the late 90s iirc.

If I have $10m in the bank and I live off the interest I am, in a sense, losing money while being able to stay solvent for the rest of my life. I don't see a reason why a newspaper couldn't apply the same principle.

You will still have $10 mil, but at an average inflation rate of 3% that will be worth half in 24 years, and 1/4th in 28. So you will have less and less of a newspaper. And that's if none of your investments go bad. This kind of logic doesn't work for long time horizons.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Coming Soon: WaPo Marketplace. Search for a story and get 10000 results from writers in China like LIOPOSFO and XIGISNN that look almost like the genuine article!

Fortunately, they all come from the same LLM article factory as the western-branded ones. So, no loss.

No, they will come from Deepseek and have very different opinions on Taiwan

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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> When it comes to the appearance of conflict, I am not an ideal owner of The Post. Every day, somewhere, some Amazon executive or Blue Origin executive or someone from the other philanthropies and companies I own or invest in is meeting with government officials. I once wrote that The Post is a “complexifier” for me. It is, but it turns out I’m also a complexifier for The Post. - https://archive.is/flIDl It kind of…

There was an ulterior motive and the impact was deliberate. Further down the article: > O'Neal was brought in by Bezos this summer after the corporate titan tore up his paper's opinion section. > Bezos said he wanted a tight focus on two priorities: personal liberties and free markets. The top opinion page editor resigned. A raft of prominent columnists and contributors resigned or departed as well. Some were let go.

It's not ulterior if he said it

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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> Washington Post becoming a shadow of itself The Post was always terrible, always extremely conservative, and always blatantly mixed editorial in with its news reporting (unlike most other outlets in the past.) A bunch of anti-Trump people decided it was movement liberal because it didn't like Trump (like every other Republican and Republican outlet until people started voting them out over it.) WaPo was the most ri…

> always extremely conservative You have a pretty idiosyncratic definition of "conservative"

The typical "we have two right wing parties." It's a stupid pedantic thing people on the left like to do.

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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> always extremely conservative You have a pretty idiosyncratic definition of "conservative"

In the past the articles were reasonably objective. The editorial section was always to the right of Attila the Hun.

Who knew that Attila the Hun was basically the ancient version of Elizabeth Warren?

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Its impressive how well Bezos has convinced everyone to stop trusting WaPo rather than WaPo convincing everyone to trust Bezos. A paper owned by a wealthy financial interest was hardly unique or novel at the time he took them over, and no one would have been more concerned about it than they already were, and all he had to do was not be overt in his influence and bias of it, but he couldn't refrain.

These billionaires don't have a solid feedback loop back to reality

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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"Your browser is out of date. Update your browser to view this site properly." it always makes me sad when i see this. you are not reaching your target audience. fyi this seems to be a cloudflare thing. i see it everywhere. The World Wide Web seems to be going down a dark path. perhaps i do need to update my browser, but why should that matter for just reading a news site. it's like someone wants you to not have acce…

does it similarly make you sad if your operating system tells you to update for new security patches or indicators? the sheer volume of browser exploits - including in-the-wild exploited zero-click zero days - is frankly insane. intentionally leaving yourself unprotected is a bad choice that should be shoved back in your face, often. > i see it everywhere. i see it nowhere. update your software! and don't use chrome.

they were not informing him of an insecurity.

and software monoculture is widely considered a security threat, and so by pushing software monoculture, you yourself are pushing to weaken internet security. GP should potentially be applauded (if he's not using for example IE6)

Re: Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

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Citizen's United destroyed journalism by making it for profit propaganda for the wealthy, but its always been under attack. Journalism has always been under attack from the wealthy robber barons of the time. Rockefeller famously bought out the magazine/newspaper that muckraker Ida Tarbell wrote for after she wrote a damning book about Standard Oil. However, it only hardened her and other muckrakers, who later led to…

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Citizens United has everything to do with journalism, but not in the way the comment you are replying to says. The CU case was over a film maker who released a political documentary and was banned from advertising it because those adds were political in nature and therefore banned by campaign finance laws. The court correctly ruled that the government had no power to regulate this because of freedom of the press.
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