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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by mytailorisrich »

tirant wrote: post #135
mytailorisrich wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think those 24 languages reflect all the languages that are official languages at country level. So for instance, Basque is not an official language of any country (only French in France and Spanish/Castilian in Spain). Belgium's official languages are French, Dutch, and German, "Flemish" is only a local variant of Dutch (Belgian French is also only a local variant of French).

Basque is an official language and declared as such in the Spanish constitution however restricted only to the regions that decide to apply it (Basque Country and Navarra).

If we want to go all legal, I believe that Spanish/Castilian is the only official language of the State, so at country level, with the other "Spanish languages" only official in their respective areas:

Section 3

(1) Castilian is the official Spanish language of the State. All Spaniards have the duty to know it and the right to use it.

(2) The other Spanish languages shall also be official in the respective Autonomous Communities in accordance with their Statutes.

(3) The richness of the different linguistic modalities of Spain is a cultural heritage which shall be specially respected and protected. [1]

[1] https://www.senado.es/web/conocersenado/normas/constitucion/...

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by Tade0 »

purrcat259 wrote: post #16
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

I read, write and speak Maltese, AMA if you are curious about the language.

How is "Marsaxlokk" really pronounced? I've heard that word a few times, but never from a native. Google translate can't help me here, as it doesn't seem to have Maltese text-to-speech.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by kreetx »

tensor wrote: post #122
kreetx wrote: post #45

I'm somewhat skeptical of taxpayer funded innovation. Seen a few Horizon grants from the side, as a citizen I'd prefer to not pay for them, but unfortunately can't opt out.

The vast majority of US discoveries are by immigrants using taxpayer money. AKA scientists at universities. Your media likes to give credit to the companies, but generally the companies only apply things, they rarely create new science these days.

The above is not a discovery though.

My experience with government funding is that they apply something and won't even try to sell it because selling is hard: you don't want to know that the thing you built is lacking nor that the competition is better. Especially the academic types don't. Yet I'm paying for these guys. Also, by funding the academics they won't even need to go to the job market.. But as I paid for their education I thought I was buying people who create value.

Perhaps the above is rather harsh and it's "not that bad", my subjective experience nevertheless.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by extraduder_ire »

From the EuroLLM-9B page on hugginface;

>You need to agree to share your contact information to access this model

Is this common? I've never seen it on the site before, and it isn't on the smaller model. What are they collecting this information for?

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by kreetx »

owisd wrote: post #88
kreetx wrote: post #45

I'm somewhat skeptical of taxpayer funded innovation. Seen a few Horizon grants from the side, as a citizen I'd prefer to not pay for them, but unfortunately can't opt out.

How about Tesla for taxpayer funded innovation? https://www.energy.gov/lpo/tesla

I wouldn't mind actually/visibly productive companies taking these grants. But I've also seen mostly research-focused (nominally) private companies who mostly live off of science grants, who don't produce nor sell much - because they don't have to.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by whimsicalism »

ffsm8 wrote: post #143
actionfromafar wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feudalism is a problem in some corners, but it's mostly a UK thing. The US has its own almost-feudalism like ownership structure (see 1980s to now wealth distribution), which is problematic, but it's not bad enough (yet) to halt the US economy.

And to add to your point: The UK isn't even part of the EU...

okay, fair enough - i do sometimes have wistful 'delusions' where the UK is still in the EU

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by kreetx »

NicuCalcea wrote: post #74
kreetx wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, most of Eastern Europe are Balto-Slavic. While the division from the Eastern Slavic languages (Russian, Belarussian, Ukranian, etc) is distant, they are still Slavic. From Eastern Europe, only Estonian is not a Slavic language.

> From Eastern Europe, only Estonian is not a Slavic language. Well, that and Romanian. And Hungarian. And outside the EU, Albanian. And Georgian, Azeri and Armenian if you consider those Eastern Europe.

I regret being that loose with the designation :), Romanian and Hungarian are valid counter arguments.

In my mind, I was thinking of the belt of countries between Russia and Central Europe, starting from the Baltics down to the Balkan (excluding Greece).

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by yvdriess »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #84
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

Flemish? I remember watching a TV show in Flemish ( Hotel Beau Séjour [0]), so it's prevalent enough to invest that kind of money into. What about Basque? Is that too controversial? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Beau_Séjour

Flemish is more of a political construct than linguistic, it's a grouping of belgian-dutch the coastal, brabant and limburg language groups with each having their own regional dialects.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by sofixa »

whimsicalism wrote: post #170
sofixa wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I started my company in the US because everything is so much easier here Which part is easier? That you have 50 different states with slightly varying laws to consider (e.g. Californian Data protection)? That you have a byzantine system of "benefits" to choose and manage? And compared to where? Germany or Estonia or Sweden or Spain? The complexities will vary wildly depending on the country (kind of like in the…

"That you have 50 different states with slightly varying laws to consider (e.g. Californian Data protection)?" there are certain sentences you can just tell would never be written by an American lol

Got me, I'm not American, but isn't it true?

California Consumer Privacy Act is a thing you need to take into account for Californian customers.

Illinois has a Biometric Privacy Act.

And who knows what Wyoming or South Dakota or Oregon have that you might take into account if your business falls under any of them.

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