Live data from Hacker News

Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

theconversation.com

111–120 of 166 posts

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

#111

Let's be clear. It is not the actual smartphones that do this; machines are designed and programmed by humans. Companies can choose to use technology to manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes, and many do choose just that, often for financial gain.

"Guns don't kill people..."

"rappers do ..."

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

#112
post #18
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Idk I've gotten high and just wasted whole nights going down Wikipedia rabbit holes. I think eventually turned to stronger time wasters though. The Wikipedia thing is real though.

That's infinitely preferable to scrolling your short form video platform of choice. At least you get some fun facts to use in conversation out of it.

Fun facts, and/or actual knowledge you might even use one day. This said, I've definitely never had a use for knowing about CORONA spy satellites dropping film cartridges on the Earth (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CORONA_(satellite)) or about bell-mouth spillways...

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

#115
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the Replicator was locked out from producing mass amounts of unhealthy food (unless you told it not to). Maybe the lesson we should learn is our hardware should come with built in limits on use to keep our brains intact? That sounds dystopian.

the freedom to be able to choose to engorge yourself on twinkies is maybe a good thing, the fact that some folks are willing and able to indulge that impulse is probably less good

> the freedom to be able to choose to engorge yourself on twinkies is maybe a good thing

In isolation, freedom is wonderful. In practice, maybe not? If a member of the star trek crew abused twinkies to the extent that they were lethargic or unhealthy, it would negatively impact the mission.

There is some compromise between freedoms and social resposibility

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

#116

Let's be clear. It is not the actual smartphones that do this; machines are designed and programmed by humans. Companies can choose to use technology to manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes, and many do choose just that, often for financial gain.

The purpose of a system is what it does.

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

#117
post #5

Bo Burnham put it succinctly, although he was talking about children on apps: "When they go to sleep at night, they have to choose between all of the information ever published in the history of the world, or the back of their eyelids." The smartphone is a perverted implementation of the goal that people use to fantasize about back in the early days of the computer revolution: a personal terminal to the world of audi…

It isn't even a perverted implementation, we just overestimated ourselves. All our sci-fi futurism of the 70s/80s showed enlightened humans elevating themselves with technology. In real Star Trek the holo deck would be used for porn, the computer would be used to play shitty podcasts while they procrastinated work and the replicator would be churning out donuts and fried foods. It's philosophically a weird time, beca…

You don't consider an application that is designed specifically to siphon all the attention it can to be a perverted implementation?

Surprise, it's harder for people to self-govern when they are surrounded by mechanisms designed deliberately to subvert their capacity to self-govern.

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

#118
That's like saying we should ban knife because it could kill people. Please. Every adult can make an informed choice on what "manipulates" them. If they can't, if they prefer convenience over critical thinking, then you don't stand a chance and will be exploited by the capitalistic overlords.

> also an issue of privacy

Welcome to the age of obsessive and relentless mass surveillance. Want privacy? Impossible unless you have discipline and patience to not give in to the digital overlords

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

#119

But solutions? Here's my take, will gladly take input (Android): Two profiles: profile 1 has no notifications, reading apps (ebooks) and shouldn't have a browser (mine does and shouldn't); profile 2 has all apps, inclusively all of profile 1 apps. Idea: have an "offline" phone. Good for battery. Whenever I need IoT or something else, I shrug and change profile. Use desktop apps/desktop browser: should work. Doesn't m…

Why on earth are you using crapbook, whatscrap and linkedshit?

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if you’re being coy or pushing the trope but you’re right guns don’t actually kill people. The bullets and blood loss tend to do that. That said, denying people access to guns does result in fewer gun related fatalities.

But note that this is deeply unethical and amounts to denying people the right to self-defense, and by extension, denying people the right to freedom. The only thing that happens when guns are denied is the rise of corrupt and totalitarian politicians, and that the common man is either oppressed by them or by criminal gangs. Enter guns, and the common man can defend himself against both, which is a blessing. Thankful…

I live in a country with an aggressive gun lobby, and a ludicrously corrupt government that wants to create a fascist ethnostate. The gun nuts are largely on the side of the fascist ethnostate. I don’t think guns are the perfect defenders of freedom you think they are.
Post reply on HN