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Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by phrotoma »

user2722 wrote: post #25

But solutions? Here's my take, will gladly take input (Android): Two profiles: profile 1 has no notifications, reading apps (ebooks) and shouldn't have a browser (mine does and shouldn't); profile 2 has all apps, inclusively all of profile 1 apps. Idea: have an "offline" phone. Good for battery. Whenever I need IoT or something else, I shrug and change profile. Use desktop apps/desktop browser: should work. Doesn't m…

I've been dreaming for years of some kind of "two ways to unlock your phone" mode.

Mode 1: I'm bored, show me something interesting, all notifications are available

Mode 2: I want to do something specific, don't show me anything but a tool for selecting an app / task (list of apps, search box, whatever).

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by changadera »

zahirbmirza wrote: post #66

Let's be clear. It is not the actual smartphones that do this; machines are designed and programmed by humans. Companies can choose to use technology to manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes, and many do choose just that, often for financial gain.

"Guns don't kill people..."

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

changadera wrote: post #82
zahirbmirza wrote: post #66

Let's be clear. It is not the actual smartphones that do this; machines are designed and programmed by humans. Companies can choose to use technology to manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes, and many do choose just that, often for financial gain.

"Guns don't kill people..."

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Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by flobosg »

samrus wrote: post #7
quacked wrote: post #5

Bo Burnham put it succinctly, although he was talking about children on apps: "When they go to sleep at night, they have to choose between all of the information ever published in the history of the world, or the back of their eyelids." The smartphone is a perverted implementation of the goal that people use to fantasize about back in the early days of the computer revolution: a personal terminal to the world of audi…

I think the access to so much information itself isnt bad. Cuz access to all of wikipedia wouldnt do this. People would get bored because its still work to digest that information I think this access gave opportunities to bad actors whose incentives are misalligned with society's. Social media companies. They use this opportunity to serve us easily digestible garbage thats going to get us hooked. Its a not some grand…

Your mention of Wikipedia reminded me of WikiTok: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42936723

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by [deleted] »

changadera wrote: post #82
zahirbmirza wrote: post #66

Let's be clear. It is not the actual smartphones that do this; machines are designed and programmed by humans. Companies can choose to use technology to manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes, and many do choose just that, often for financial gain.

"Guns don't kill people..."

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Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by api »

zahirbmirza wrote: post #66

Let's be clear. It is not the actual smartphones that do this; machines are designed and programmed by humans. Companies can choose to use technology to manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes, and many do choose just that, often for financial gain.

It’s the apps, specifically algorithmic social media and addictive games. The latter now also includes addictive gambling apps.

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by skeezyjefferson »

lijok wrote: post #11

Notice under “Managing dependency”, the focus is exclusively on technological solutions. There is no technological solution to this. We have the equivalent of unlimited crack in everyone’s pocket 24/7 with no possible oversight over its use and no way to reel it back in. The genie has been out of the bottle for a while now. Just like gluttony, there is no solution, only management strategies and they’re all very huma…

> We have the equivalent of unlimited crack in everyone’s pocket 24/7

i think you might be slightly overreacting there bud. and smartphones dont connect to a different internet, youre on social media right now.

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by skeezyjefferson »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #72

I don't understand how having faceid, a touchscreen, vibration, gps would manipulate my emotions. Makes no sense. Developers using these features to build app that makes you addicted ? Yes. But these features in itself are not manipulatives or triggering reflexes. I just don't understand the author reasoning... I don't use addictive social media on my phone and when I receive notification, my phone makes a sound, it…

> I don't use addictive social media on my phone and when I receive notification, my phone makes a sound, it vibrates and yet I don't feel urged to look at it.

the hysterical mob has decided it is literal crack rocks and EVERYONE ELSE cannot be trusted to not get hopelessly addicted to it, however they can use social media to of course decry its evils

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by skeezyjefferson »

wlesieutre wrote: post #28
noduerme wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know that anyone's really asking for protection from their own impulses. Freedom requires protection from other people's impulses. That's where this is all going. A few truly free people, everyone else in a cage.

Rather than framing it as "protection from my own impulses," I think it's more fair to frame it as "protection from teams of professional researchers and engineers and marketers whose entire life's work is fine tuning how to most effectively profit from my impulses"

thats not true though is it. youre talking about a UI designer being some king of evil nazi... get real

Re: Smartphones manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes

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Post by vaylian »

changadera wrote: post #82
zahirbmirza wrote: post #66

Let's be clear. It is not the actual smartphones that do this; machines are designed and programmed by humans. Companies can choose to use technology to manipulate our emotions and trigger our reflexes, and many do choose just that, often for financial gain.

"Guns don't kill people..."

Kitchen knives do
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