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The myth of outrunning your diet

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Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

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Almost all of the comments here seem to miss a point. Weight lods can be extremely difficult because : 1. your body metabolism will adapt really fast to caloric restrictions 2. losing weight is easy, not regaining it is a challenge in adapting your body set point 3. having enough time to exercise to the point where calories are a deficit is a luxury many can't afford 4.the psychological state of many people is a prim…

> your body set point

... is a pseudoscientific myth.

Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

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post #37

Physical activity also makes me less hungry. The problem is that physical activity is unnatural and not intuitive. Biology is about saving energy, not spending it to keep everything healthy. Bad mental health leads me to do less physical activity. Bad mental health also makes physical activity more difficult and painful.

I thought physical activity will increase your hunger.

Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

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post #37

Physical activity also makes me less hungry. The problem is that physical activity is unnatural and not intuitive. Biology is about saving energy, not spending it to keep everything healthy. Bad mental health leads me to do less physical activity. Bad mental health also makes physical activity more difficult and painful.

I thought physical activity will increase your hunger.

Not always, not if your hunger is caused by hormonal issues. Also, drinking more decrease your hunger if caused by grahlin (that's my secret technique when I'm invited to a meal, I drink a lot of water).

Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

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God, that's a lot of writing. One, you absolutely can "outrun" a diet. If you've known anyone a little bit too much into fitness then you've known someone who has struggled to eat enough to maintain and build weight. I had a friend who would drink a gallon of whole milk a day to maintain weight because he did so much at the gym. I'm not saying it's healthy, but saying it isn't possible to exercise so much it's diffic…

Some people maybe can but most cannot. Even running like 5 miles a day is completely undone by a large frapachino. The difference in an active adult's normal day, like a teacher walking around, and a completely sedentary worker at their computer can be undone with a cream cheese bagel. And in the US, a bunch of the food that's convenient to buy and eat is "hyperpalatable". You're going to be really hard pressed to lo…

35 miles per week is low milage.

10 miles per day would be more appropriate for someone aiming for a marathon.

If you eat real food and not "frapachino" (whatever that is) it can be pretty hard to eat enough food to keep your weight, without stomach issues.

No, I don't run that much. But many people do even more.

Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

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I exercise a fair bit, and I still struggle to lose weight, I'm doing about 500 calories of movement a day, which means my maintenance diet is about 2500 calories. Trust me, it's really easy to go over that. So yes if you want to lose weight, it's just a fact that you need to look at your diet primarily.

I'm naturally skinny and trying to gain weight (muscle mass) and also do around 500 calories a day of movement so aiming for 3000 calories.

It just goes to show what a big influence baseline appetite and food choices make because I find it really hard to eat that much and always wonder how people manage it in just three meals

Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

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I exercise a fair bit, and I still struggle to lose weight, I'm doing about 500 calories of movement a day, which means my maintenance diet is about 2500 calories. Trust me, it's really easy to go over that. So yes if you want to lose weight, it's just a fact that you need to look at your diet primarily.

I'm naturally skinny and trying to gain weight (muscle mass) and also do around 500 calories a day of movement so aiming for 3000 calories. It just goes to show what a big influence baseline appetite and food choices make because I find it really hard to eat that much and always wonder how people manage it in just three meals

The average American snacks on calorie-dense foods one or two times per day

Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

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post #37

Physical activity also makes me less hungry. The problem is that physical activity is unnatural and not intuitive. Biology is about saving energy, not spending it to keep everything healthy. Bad mental health leads me to do less physical activity. Bad mental health also makes physical activity more difficult and painful.

I thought physical activity will increase your hunger.

When I exercise, I lose any feeling of "bored hunger", and even if I have a regularly scheduled meal soon after ("real hunger"), I feel satisfied after eating less of it than normal.

I suppose exercise would cause me to naturally eat more long term to make up for lost energy, but perhaps only if my body can't make up that energy from sugar stores.

As for why eating doesn't make me hungry short term - I suppose exercising doesn't empty your stomach, which is what triggers hunger?

This is a ton of speculation.

Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

#49
post #26

Almost all of the comments here seem to miss a point. Weight lods can be extremely difficult because : 1. your body metabolism will adapt really fast to caloric restrictions 2. losing weight is easy, not regaining it is a challenge in adapting your body set point 3. having enough time to exercise to the point where calories are a deficit is a luxury many can't afford 4.the psychological state of many people is a prim…

> your body metabolism will adapt really fast to caloric restrictions

Not if you exercise

> osing weight is easy, not regaining it is a challenge in adapting your body set point

Body set points are BS, its hard because people mostly just lose water weight and/or go back to old habits

Re: The myth of outrunning your diet

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post #38
post #16

I don't understand the angle here? Go check out the cross country running team of your local high school. They will literally have to have carb loading parties for the kids so that they are able to do the run the next day. The article even largely acknowledges this with working with kids and exercise. So if the myth is simply "we are fat because we don't exercise more", agreed. But the effectiveness of the new drugs…

My thinking and experience went kind of the opposite way. We are focusing so much on making it effective and hard ... that we removed all pleasure from exercising and sport. Of course it takes a lot of self control to go do it, when the whole experience actually massively sux and no matter what you do, it is not enough. And of course then you will give up on that once you are under pressure or stressed or have a lot…

My experience is that liking something is basically unrelated to it being hard. Being good at it, on the other hand, requires putting in hard work. No matter what it is.

Note that you can build a ramp up process such that you don't immediately punish yourself for not being good at something. Essentially the early levels of any video game. But, that is the point. Later levels are harder. By definition. But early levels are probably hard for beginners, as well. The challenge is part of the point.

The exact same thing goes for the early periods of a sport. Just running across the field is surprisingly hard for beginners. In ways that you flat out don't remember once you are proficient at it.

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