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NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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I can imagine SpaceX choosing to self-finance a mission to the moon and beat NASA at it.

Self-finance ? Is that what you call US government money?

Last years SpaceX revenue was 15 Billions, of which 1.1 came from NASA. Their revenues is higher than entire NASA budget.

https://deepnewz.com/company-earnings/spacex-2025-revenue-to...

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Having a deadline is how things get done. With no deadline, nothing gets accomplished.

This is a political deadline with no grounding in reality.

The entire Apollo program was a political stunt to upstage the USSR.

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Why does this sounds so... Entitled? NASA regresses so far that they are now unable to do anything by themselves... Now suddenly there is a new moon race and they start pointing to a public company that is not sticking to a schedule. A company that does some impressive things, and has helped them out (probably not out of the goodness of their hearts, but hey), and is doing things they could not. I would be an adult a…

> probably not out of the goodness of their hearts, but hey It's a terrible idea to rely on this. Why would you want people to work this way when you can just have a regular-person financial transaction that aligns your interests?

FWIW, I absolutely agree. I just wanted to stress that the helping with the Boeing situation was something that, in a way, one could be a bit grateful for. But yeah, its not necessary.

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Since blue origin is still developing their new glenn rocket with only a single launch so far what is the chance they use falcon heavy to deliver their blue moon lander

There is no way to use falcon heavy to launch the blue moon lander without a custom payload adapter that would take as much time as building a third New Glenn booster, so the chances are exactly 0%.

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Why does this sounds so... Entitled? NASA regresses so far that they are now unable to do anything by themselves... Now suddenly there is a new moon race and they start pointing to a public company that is not sticking to a schedule. A company that does some impressive things, and has helped them out (probably not out of the goodness of their hearts, but hey), and is doing things they could not. I would be an adult a…

Duffy wants to fold NASA into the Department of Transportation and make it a Moon transport focused organization. He cares nothing of science or discovery and if he can show that SpaceX is behind in its transport contract, that helps his argument that NASA should be in the transport business which helps his argument that NASA should be a part of the DOT.

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Having a deadline is how things get done. With no deadline, nothing gets accomplished.

This is a political deadline with no grounding in reality.

So just like every other deadline I'm given, then.

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Is starship on schedule?

> Is starship on schedule? Difficult to say relative to current Artemis timelines, which have to date been mainly delayed by Orion. They're currently looking on schedule to perform an orbital propellant transfer in 2026. That likely means a commercial launch before the end of next year, which is crazy. How that relates to HLS is up in the air, and probably will be until the end of next year.

> Difficult to say

It's not difficult to say. They are behind schedule and everyone, not just Duffy, is talking about it and have been for awhile.

I don't care - beyond how getting to the moon will help future space exploration - and risk is high when developing new tech, but I also don't care about SpaceX. It's very possible Starship won't work out; that's risk and I'm sure SpaceX and NASA people understand that. Why must people on HN defend SpaceX at every turn, like a PR agency. Does anyone point out a genuine, significant, negative about Starship? Why might it not work? What are the risks?

I think more competition is great and hope they reopen the contract. Private industry competing on what is now prosaic space technology, such as orbit and even the moon, is great. Let NASA do the cutting edge stuff like flying to Europa or looking back to the beginning of time or investigating climate change. (Notice that private industry still can't land on the moon reliably - 56 years after NASA demonstrated it.)

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Having a deadline is how things get done. With no deadline, nothing gets accomplished.

The Moon directive was set by Donald Trump in 2017. This is just the same deadline being pushed another year because of failures. Deadlines that get constantly pushed aren't deadlines at all. As I recall, SpaceX and Artemis project was supposed to be Moon by 2024. At least originally. But then SpaceX blew up all the rockets (successfully testing them or something) and now we've wasted damn near a decade.

Testing rockets that fail is still progress. Deadlines that get pushed isn't an argument against deadlines.

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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SLS was 6 years and like 10-20 billion $ over budget and nobody ever complainged, in fact they got consistantly more and more money. And that is for technology that is fundamentally from the 1970s. Starship is trying to do the hardest thing in the history of space flight. And of course its not on schedule, its schedule was always insane. The way of approching things as 'is X on schedule' is a fundamentally false way…

> SLS was 6 years and like 10-20 billion $ over budget and nobody ever complainged, in fact they got consistantly more and more money Ah, but SLS were the right kind of people . Allegedly. /s SpaceX, less so. Allegedly.

> Ah, but SLS were the right kind of people. Allegedly. /s / SpaceX, less so. Allegedly.

Doesn't that attitude, in reverse, describe most HN commenters every time SpaceX or SLS is mentioned?

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