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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Something's bugging me about Atlas - it's clearly Chromium-based (you can tell from the user agent and UI), but I can't find any credit to Chromium anywhere. No license info, no acknowledgments, and when I try to access chrome:// pages they're blocked. Maybe I'm overthinking this, but shouldn't there be some transparency about what you're building on top of? Especially with open source projects that have attribution…

I asked Atlas about this, and it indirectly pointed out that atlas://credits is a thing. Not linked to anywhere that I could find though.

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As a sales engineer, when I'm not pushing random PRs for random demos or infra I'm building, I'm searching for people on LinkedIn in hopes of getting introductions. I tested a really basic LinkedIn search on myself.

Atlas confidently failed successfully [0]; Kagi [1] and Google [2] nailed it.

This is a perfect example as to why I don't think LLMs should replace search engines any time soon. Search engines help you find the truth. LLMs tell you the truth, even when it's not.

[0] https://ibb.co/wrK2YQfG

[1] https://ibb.co/4wfhS2Sk

[2] https://ibb.co/spLNGYsv

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So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

Websites are terrible from a security, usability, accessibility, privacy, and mental health perspective. These tools could be used to fix all of those things. Instead they're just being used to do the same old junk, but like... faster. I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed. Yes, I even wa…

> I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed.

The browser you're looking for already exists :) (partially) its called arc browser on mobile and specifically their browse for me feature

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Surely this is something you can do with simple searches...? Unless you're reaching the level of trying to buy dozens or hundreds of movies. https://xkcd.com/1205/

But why? The AI can go off and search and I can do other stuff while it does. The point is the multiply how much you can get done, simple searches still require me to be present and to do the work of compiling the list myself, this type of busy work seems much better suited to tools like this that take a sentence or 2 to kick off

My brain can't work like that. When I'm pursuing things, I always await until the blocking operation is done, something about uninterrupted train of thought and avoiding context switching.

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What value? I haven't used them myself, but from reviews I've seen on Youtube they appear to be flaky and not all that useful. It reminds me of when voice assistants like Siri came out, and it turned out that the only thing they were good for was setting timers, controlling music playback, and gimmicky stuff like that.

> Significant losses: Internal documents revealed that Amazon's devices division lost over $25 billion between 2017 and 2021. A separate report estimated the Alexa division alone lost around $10 billion in 2022.

Think about this way: They subsidized the hardware and hardware development too much and created a messy third-party ecosystem rather than focusing these 25 bn USD on developing an AI chat (OpenAI spent less in total).

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Very telling / depressing that literally 3 out of their top 4 highlighted examples of the "Amazing" features this browser provides are just ways to help you be a good little consumerist drone and buy more crap you don't really need and that won't actually make you happy from some approved list of vendors that are likely paying openAI to promote their products.

Personally, the notion of using some kind of AI glorified "Virtual shopper" where the AI doesn't actually work for me but rather some greedy, soulless megacorp is beyond dystopian. I have literally no way to tell if the products being recommended to me are actually the best products for my needs (Or if I even need the products in the first place) and the AI companies certainly don't seem keen on disclosing whether or not they are being paid to promote the products they are "Recommending."

At least when I do a web search for a product there's clear information available to delineate the ads from the organic results, but from everything I've seen thus far there is precisely nothing being done to protect consumers and disclose when the "Product recommendations" being given by these AI agents aren't actually what would best serve the consumer (Ie., the best or cheapest products), but are rather just whatever crap some company is paying the AI company to promote.

The fact none of these AI companies are even talking about how they are going to protect consumers and provide disclosures when the products they are recommending are nothing more than thinly veiled ads is very, very telling. The current advertising rules don't really apply as the regulators are way behind the curve with AI technology, and the AI companies certainly aren't going to be pushing for the rules to be updated to include AI product recommendations themselves, as they will happily con, deceive and lie to their customers if it means they'll make more money.

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Super dumb question but why was this so hard for someone to build. I’ve been wanting to simply ask AI about whatever is currently on my screen for years. I don’t get why we can’t easily have this.

You can already do this! I saw this on X[0]. You can do WebRTC to Realtime API + getDisplayMedia.

[0] https://www.loom.com/share/22a165508ae5491dbd536fbbc5348fcc

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I’m not sure even if these browser automation brings much value other than financial analysts, at least for the moment

I was sceptical as well before trying it out, but it is unfortunately very practical to ask the AI sidebar about an information-dense website or even github codebase (just as dev examples). There were of course many browser extensions that did this beforehand (and even better, by hyper-linking the exact text passage of answer segments), but the main differentiator is that most people don't use them/know about them, a…

Could you please suggest some of those extensions? I've been looking for an agentic tool like that, but isolated as an extension.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Super dumb question but why was this so hard for someone to build. I’ve been wanting to simply ask AI about whatever is currently on my screen for years. I don’t get why we can’t easily have this.

It is very basic. I have built my own version of this based on Chromium that integrates both Claude and ChatGPT in the browser. It can do a lot of tasks like translate or shorten the text I selected and so on. It took me like a couple of hours to build. The problem is the cost of using the LLMs, especially since they are still pretty stupid and requires huge prompts.

EDIT: I think I misunderstood your Q. Sorry. You can take a screenshot and post it to ChatGPT and get back what it is seeing, in theory. I mean, I use ChatGPT to post screenshots of my sites to get feedback on my layout and designs...

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