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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by oblio »

bogwog wrote: post #35
mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

What value? I haven't used them myself, but from reviews I've seen on Youtube they appear to be flaky and not all that useful. It reminds me of when voice assistants like Siri came out, and it turned out that the only thing they were good for was setting timers, controlling music playback, and gimmicky stuff like that.

> Significant losses: Internal documents revealed that Amazon's devices division lost over $25 billion between 2017 and 2021. A separate report estimated the Alexa division alone lost around $10 billion in 2022.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

I would definitely prefer these to be browser plugins that have clear sandboxing instead of owning my entire browser. That said, I do like Comet.

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Post by cush »

paxys wrote: post #99

The more these foundational AI companies focus on product development, the more convinced I am that improvements in intelligence of the base models have slowed down to a point where AGI/"superintelligence" isn't happening, and they have to sustain their valuations in alternate ways.

Evan an AGI is going to require basic ways like having access to a browser in order to get things done

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Post by bytesandbits »

I don't want an AI browser and don't understand the attractiveness of it. Like. What does it add that a normal browser + chatgpt extension doesn't? It is a gimmick to boost usage and token count and fake growth I think. This is the reason I dont trust Altman. He is all about fake growth.

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Post by codinhood »

gh0stcat wrote: post #91

The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…

Yeah I thought the same, they're automating ordering on instacart. That's such a small task. I wonder if it was a paid product placement

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Post by motoxpro »

echelon wrote: post #42
mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

If the DeepSeek approach to training hyperscaler models "cheaply" after all the hype wears down works, we just need to follow in their footsteps and build open source alternatives to everything. Frontier models take a lot of money and experimentation. But then people figure out how to train them and knowledge of those models and approaches leaks. Furthermore, we can make informed guesses. But best of all, we can exfi…

Curious as to what companies you think DO have a moat? I would say their moat is the same as Facebook's. Not permanent (see TikTok) but also super strong.

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Post by bigyabai »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #80
jerjerjer wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why wouldn't it be Chromium/V8-based? New browser engine is multiple developer-years of effort.

Just seems like not a very smart long-term move to build on it. Tough to get changes upstream when the majority of engineers working on Chromium are Google devs. Lots of features you'd hope would be available in Chromium aren't there and have to be implemented manually, but then you need to keep your fork interoperating with a massive, moving target. Safe Browsing, Translate, Spellcheck, Autofill, Password Manager ar…

I'm not really seeing the alternative here, though. If your main gripe with Chromium is getting patches upstream through the vendor, that's an issue with all the browser engines available to them. Gecko would be an even riskier bet than Chromium, and WebKit verges on being chronically undermaintained on Windows and Linux.

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Post by cush »

gh0stcat wrote: post #91

The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them…

It’s always “Book me a flight” or “write an email”. Like all we do is email people about where we’re flying next

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Post by tim333 »

AustinDev wrote: post #66

Just to be meta, I downloaded the browser and added this thread as context and asked for some insightful comments I could leave (It doesn't seem to understand block-quoting format for this site): Analytical / Insightful (well-received on HN) > The interesting thing here isn’t that OpenAI made “a browser,” it’s that they’ve collapsed the boundary between the page and the assistant. Plugins and “GPTs” tried to bolt API…

>new operating system for cognition

Kinda pretentious? Looks like a browser to me.

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