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Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#91
So... what's the big deal? Putting aside the various arguments whether religious texts should be marked as such, the wording of this policy, etc, etc... literally what difference does it make that these apps now have this flag? Do people think users will see this flag and be like, "Oh dear me I had no idea the Bible was NSFW; won't be reading that now!"?

Just confused about the outrage.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#92

Generally speaking, only images/videos are NSFW-taggable. The argument can be made than an app which displays religious imagery is not suitable for the workplace, but if it's just a reader with texts, then not. If someone wants to spy over your shoulder to read text on your screen, and it doesn't jibe with their religion, that is their problem. And, if that's where the goalposts lie, then atheistic texts could be off…

There is a world outside the USA where most of what you wrote doesn’t apply. Here I think the labelling doesn’t really make sense but it never does anyway and pretty much means "this content is part of a corpus American think is objectionable and wouldn’t want to be seen with in public”. I enjoy the controversy for putting in light the usual imperial blindness however.

Funny you should mention that because some draft of my comment did specify "North American workplace" but it got lost in some edit.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#93
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it does , and explicitly - it isn’t a matter of interpretation. Repeatedly god commands his followers to slaughter men, women, children, and even the animals of their foes. Repeatedly god tells his followers to enslave people, and that it’s fine to treat them abysmally as long as it’s not so bad that they die. This isn’t my opinion of what the bible contains - any more than I could argue that Hellraiser is a cute…

"The bible is not a matter of interpretation" is literally, literally how you end up in religious wars. Seriously?

The reality of what is in the bible is not, no. It is written, in black and white. Yes you could argue about gnostic gospels and shit but what people accept to be the Bible has been a static set of texts for centuries now.

Now, anyway, you need to stop talking smack about my mother, and I disliked the death threat you made just there, and I don’t need to know about what you do with fish in the bedroom.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#94

Because they are?

It is like red states in USA few years ago banning NSFW books from schools only to find out that Bible is NSFW too by every today metric.

Why would it be surprising for them? I guess the never read the book they are preaching.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#96
post #62

F-Droid "Anti-Feature flags" are not block lists. They are for users to filter content. The content is still available. >> When reviewing apps to accept, F-Droid takes the user’s point of view, first and foremost. We start with strict acceptance criteria based on the principles of free software and user control. There are some things about an app that might not block it from inclusion, but many users might not want t…

F-Droid is no longer accepting "NSFW" apps (as they dubiously define them) and will eventually remove them from the repo. This tag is only a stopgap until they figure out how to move them out of the F-Droid repo.

Oh that's disappointing. I have no issue with them flagging bible apps (it's just a flag and I welcome the ability to filter) but I do think nsfw content does belong in an open app ecosystem under the appropriate flagging. Including religion for those who subscribe to that.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#97
post #91

So... what's the big deal? Putting aside the various arguments whether religious texts should be marked as such, the wording of this policy, etc, etc... literally what difference does it make that these apps now have this flag? Do people think users will see this flag and be like, "Oh dear me I had no idea the Bible was NSFW; won't be reading that now!"? Just confused about the outrage.

You have to enable a setting to see apps marked with that anti-feature when searching

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#98
Maybe I'm in the minority but I consider religious text books, prayer tracking/reading apps as the low-effort ones - doesn't matter which religion it is. These will eventually show up in the "store" in countless versions.

But I get it at the same time - some people may want them on their devices.

I'm more concerned in this case that NSFW section contains "political incorrectness". Who's going to decide here what's incorrect and what's not in some cases? A "committee" of experts on discord?

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#99
F-Droid are in the FA stage of FAFO. If they don't reverse this, they will find themselves in the FO stage. Anyone can hold the opinion that "religion or its texts are ruinous" but you can never apply it in practice in a liberal democracy (even in secular states) simply because religious and expression rights are legally protected.

Don't moral police people especially on something that is as controversial as this.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#100

I mean, yes, these are religious texts, but if we are to judge them on a level with other content, they absolutely warrant a warning. The abrahamic religious texts intersect largely around the Old Testament, which is a smorgasbord of genocide, slavery, casual murder, infanticide, sexual abuse of all flavours, and all the rest. I guess the question is whether religious texts should be exempt from content warnings, in…

From an App Store rating perspective, this particularly affects children, which leads to a much more focused question: Should minors have the right to install and use apps without parental approval that grant them access to content that is accepted to contain: > genocide, slavery, casual murder, infanticide, sexual abuse And if so, then what categories of apps are exempt from otherwise-mandatory content restriction p…

> Should minors have the right to install and use apps without parental approval that grant them access to content that is accepted to contain:

>> genocide, slavery, casual murder, infanticide, sexual abuse

Like wikipedia?

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