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Re: Thank you Apple

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Then I'm sure he meant Core 2 and made a mistake, because I'd sure he wouldn't miss the computer's age by 50% if he purchased it.

All Core 2 Duo machines still run Mountain Lion. I have a 5 year old MacBook Pro purchased early 2007 that runs ML without issues.

2006 Core 2 Duos with the old-timey Intel graphics do not. I think anything less than the 1000 will not run ML.

Re: Thank you Apple

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I wanted to blog about something similar myself, but currently lack a blog. Apple's rejection of physical media is, I would argue, extremely harmful. I have an old, 2008 Macbook (not Pro) 4,1. The old white plastic kind. Lion performs atrociously (at best) on it, so around half a year ago I installed Linux on it. Recently, I got around to buying a new laptop (a Lenovo), and wanted to restore OSX on the old Macbook in…

A bit of toothpaste diluted with water, and a gentle fingertip, may take that scratch out of your Leopard disc. Do less than you think is necessary, then stop and assess.

In part, it seems some people "have the touch" for such work. I've fixed up a few abused (by others) music CD's this way.

Re: Thank you Apple

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It had surprised me when Lion came out that the installation was done by an "app", not as a bootable image. This is an unnecessary complication for those of us that need to maintain machines. Earlier, when updating a different machine, I had learned how painful this could be when the installation app destroyed the boot sector and I needed to reinstall Snow Leopard from DVD, and then upgrade that to a version of the s…

Yeah. I remember going through Snow L -> Lion. I wanted a clean system so had to make an ISO. Process reminded me a linux install from USB from 10 years back. And I lost iPhoto. Because suddenly my Macbook Air stopped being eligible for free iPhoto.

> And I lost iPhoto. Because suddenly my Macbook Air stopped being eligible for free iPhoto.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2604

iPhoto is part of the iLife package, a paid product. It is not part of OS X, but when you get a new Mac the latest version is thrown in for free.

Maybe I've gone through too many OS X installations in my time but this neither surprises nor frustrates me in any way...

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#124

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You have a lot of patience. I would have resorted to piracy at around step 2 of the process.

wouldn't it simply be obtaining software via unofficial means rather than piracy since he already paid for it?

Depends if you're a member of Apple's legal team or not.

Re: Thank you Apple

#125

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All Core 2 Duo machines still run Mountain Lion. I have a 5 year old MacBook Pro purchased early 2007 that runs ML without issues.

2006 Core 2 Duos with the old-timey Intel graphics do not. I think anything less than the 1000 will not run ML.

I stand corrected.

Re: Thank you Apple

#126
post #50

I wanted to blog about something similar myself, but currently lack a blog. Apple's rejection of physical media is, I would argue, extremely harmful. I have an old, 2008 Macbook (not Pro) 4,1. The old white plastic kind. Lion performs atrociously (at best) on it, so around half a year ago I installed Linux on it. Recently, I got around to buying a new laptop (a Lenovo), and wanted to restore OSX on the old Macbook in…

A bit of toothpaste diluted with water, and a gentle fingertip, may take that scratch out of your Leopard disc. Do less than you think is necessary , then stop and assess. In part, it seems some people "have the touch" for such work. I've fixed up a few abused (by others) music CD's this way.

What I've done in the past is spin the disk on a drill, and drop a very tiny amount of superglue onto the surface. The super glue spreads out like a disk, and fills in any scratches leaving a nice even surface.

Re: Thank you Apple

#127

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wouldn't it simply be obtaining software via unofficial means rather than piracy since he already paid for it?

Depends if you're a member of Apple's legal team or not.

I haven't heard of Apple's legal team going after anyone for OS X piracy. Either you've purchased the Apple machine already, so whatever, or you're trying to make a Hackintosh in which case it's a bag of hurt anyway and probably not that lucrative to go after you. (Besides, the legal team is busy with Samsung, anyway - much more money in iPhone patents.)

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#128

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Why can't you have both? In Ubuntu, you can update your OS version from the update manager, but you can also download the *.iso and do a clean install. After they tack on payment and drm to the system, what about this can Apple not emulate?

What about this does Apple not emulate? I download and pay for the upgrade, I right click, show contents, resources, and voilá there is a perfectly good disk image sitting right there for me to burn to disk or write out to a USB stick.

That is so incredibly un-user friendly and undiscoverable, it is absurd. How would my mother know to do that? Why didn't customer support have Rob do that?

Re: Thank you Apple

#129

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Why can't you have both? In Ubuntu, you can update your OS version from the update manager, but you can also download the *.iso and do a clean install. After they tack on payment and drm to the system, what about this can Apple not emulate?

What about this does Apple not emulate? I download and pay for the upgrade, I right click, show contents, resources, and voilá there is a perfectly good disk image sitting right there for me to burn to disk or write out to a USB stick.

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Re: Thank you Apple

#130

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What about this does Apple not emulate? I download and pay for the upgrade, I right click, show contents, resources, and voilá there is a perfectly good disk image sitting right there for me to burn to disk or write out to a USB stick.

That is so incredibly un-user friendly and undiscoverable, it is absurd. How would my mother know to do that? Why didn't customer support have Rob do that?

Your mother would simply bring her machine to a genius bar at one of the Apple stores where they have all the required tools and media to re-install her computer. She wouldn't have had a tech come out to her house to replace it.
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