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Re: Thank you Apple

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Post by ricardobeat »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #67
arrrg wrote: post #37

(This does not in any way excuse anything he encountered. That is and will always remain inexcusable.) Apple is aware of those problems and hard at work fixing them. All current Macs, for example, now come with Internet Recovery, meaning it is possible to boot them into the recovery manager (and from there it’s possible to run Disk Utility, the Terminal or the installer), even with a completely empty HDD. All the iLi…

The reality is that Disk Utility lies. There is a recovery partition it hides from you. What you're describing is impossible without a relatively huge EFI partition, or net boot.

On the most recent macs, it works even on an actual empty HDD. The core utility is baked into the firmware, and then downloads the rest of itself (the hidden partition part) over the internet.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718

Re: Thank you Apple

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Post by _seininn »

kalleboo wrote: post #68
frio wrote: post #50

I wanted to blog about something similar myself, but currently lack a blog. Apple's rejection of physical media is, I would argue, extremely harmful. I have an old, 2008 Macbook (not Pro) 4,1. The old white plastic kind. Lion performs atrociously (at best) on it, so around half a year ago I installed Linux on it. Recently, I got around to buying a new laptop (a Lenovo), and wanted to restore OSX on the old Macbook in…

You have a lot of patience. I would have resorted to piracy at around step 2 of the process.

wouldn't it simply be obtaining software via unofficial means rather than piracy since he already paid for it?

Re: Thank you Apple

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

ricardobeat wrote: post #81
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reality is that Disk Utility lies. There is a recovery partition it hides from you. What you're describing is impossible without a relatively huge EFI partition, or net boot.

On the most recent macs, it works even on an actual empty HDD. The core utility is baked into the firmware, and then downloads the rest of itself (the hidden partition part) over the internet. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718

Oh biscuits. I see. Thanks for the info/link.

Re: Thank you Apple

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Post by sbuk »

prodigal_erik wrote: post #73
Djonckheere wrote: post #43

This post is riveting. No really. Bewildering to say the least. As the post drags on and on the reoccurring "Thank you Apple" takes on an increasingly sarcastic tone. Regardless of the author's fluency with computers (who really cares?) one can only marvel at the sheer absurdity in squandering the better part of a day (or was that several days?) mucking around with OS updates. Really? What a colossal waste of time.

He is not merely "fluent with computers." He co-created three operating systems and at least one programming language, including the OS Apple managed to hinder him from installing. If your process is beyond him, your process is very, very broken.

Thing is, it doesn't seem to be beyond quite a few people here or elsewhere on the Internet. Appealing to authority is no way to prove a point. I wouldn't trust an architect to actually lay bricks.

Re: Thank you Apple

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Post by dchichkov »

ricardobeat wrote: post #79
dchichkov wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want cloud service providers forcing me to buy an application a SECOND time, by limiting my access to installer. And I'd really prefer not to pay second time. Because that reinforces the behavior of profiting by screwing people up. Maybe it saves my time. But it is unethical.

They didn't limit access to the installer, he was trying to bring it back from a Time Machine backup. If he had the original disc it would work fine.

Same thing really. He couldn't reinstall application that he owned. Because access to the installer was convoluted.

Re: Thank you Apple

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Post by dchichkov »

zschallz wrote: post #66
brianpan wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you wouldn't want to reinforce the behavior of providing a time-saving service for money?

And they wonder why people pirate.

Yeah. Pirating is almost an ethical choice in these cases :)

Unfortunately pirated packages are often filled with malware. Not exactly what you want. So a much better choice is just going with open source. Picasa, instead of iPhoto, etc...

Re: Thank you Apple

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Post by ricardobeat »

dchichkov wrote: post #86
ricardobeat wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't limit access to the installer, he was trying to bring it back from a Time Machine backup. If he had the original disc it would work fine.

Same thing really. He couldn't reinstall application that he owned. Because access to the installer was convoluted.

You bought it on a CD, keep the CD.

Before downloading apps was the norm, no company would issue a second copy of something you bought.

Re: Thank you Apple

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Post by runn1ng »

dchichkov wrote: post #87
zschallz wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they wonder why people pirate.

Yeah. Pirating is almost an ethical choice in these cases :) Unfortunately pirated packages are often filled with malware. Not exactly what you want. So a much better choice is just going with open source. Picasa, instead of iPhoto, etc...

I am not sure if pirating something you bought is actually technically illegal or not.

You are not buying the disk with the data, you are buying a license to run the software. Even when you pirate it, the license should still apply.

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