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Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin

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Post by nozzlegear »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #269
nozzlegear wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was addressing your point about Steve Jobs being a globalist, which you made out to be a bad thing. Globalism is a rising tide that lifts all boats. > Arguably, affordable antibiotics and underwear have made a vastly bigger positive impact on standard of living than iPhones. Maybe so, but "positive impact on standard of living" isn't the theme of this US Mint collection. The theme is "American Innovation."

Real sad to hear thst "making the world a better place to live in" isn't innovation anymore. But yeah it's all marketing. Who better than the marketer?

You'll have to take it up with the US Mint, I'm afraid!

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Post by whateveracct »

scoofy wrote: post #260
shevy-java wrote: post #159

Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."

This is one reason I support not putting humans on money . We used to put mythological figures on our coinage (liberty, justice, etc), because the are symbols and are uncomplicated by substance. Humans are flawed. Putting humans on money -- as symbols -- is going to make us go in circles about their imperfection. From Washington as a slave owner to Steve Jobs suppressing wages. This is not an issue if we just put the…

If you can't handle that people have flaws, you're just immature. Washington and Jobs are both hugely important historical figures, and the bad parts don't invalidate their legacies.

Purity testing has ruined liberal politics.

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Post by freetinker »

scoofy wrote: post #260
shevy-java wrote: post #159

Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."

This is one reason I support not putting humans on money . We used to put mythological figures on our coinage (liberty, justice, etc), because the are symbols and are uncomplicated by substance. Humans are flawed. Putting humans on money -- as symbols -- is going to make us go in circles about their imperfection. From Washington as a slave owner to Steve Jobs suppressing wages. This is not an issue if we just put the…

This is an evolved view. Let’s put achievements on currency, not humans. Of course, this is no panacea - “achievement” is ambiguous enough to be open to interpretation, and therefore political capture. But it’s a step forward.

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Post by mrandish »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #274
Waterluvian wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe California should put him on their dollar coin then.

He is, in the link above. And the cray-1 is for Wisconsin. For completeness, mobike refrigeration is for Minnesota and Dr. Normal Bourlag is for Iowa

> Dr. Normal Bourlag is for Iowa

Bourlag's work directly saved millions of lives. Out of those mentioned so far, he's one that truly deserves more name recognition.

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Post by mark-r »

sparrish wrote: post #249
bombcar wrote: post #74

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Banks usually have some dollar coins and if you ask they can get them. But cash register drawers usually do not have a space for them, they’re relatively heavy, and people don’t use them because they don’t use them. Vending machines famously went ham trying to use them which annoyed people. It didn’t help that the old Susan B dollar coins were almost a quarter shape and size if you weren’t paying attention. The dolla…

Pennies are going away so cash drawers should start having room for $1 coins soon. I'm hopeful we'll start seeing them.

I always wondered what took them so long. Pennies are so worthless people won't even stoop to pick one up if they see it on the ground.

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Post by mark-r »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #10
ta12653421 wrote: post #9

are these meant for regular circulation or are these "collection items"? (Im not from the US, so Im not aware of local specifics)

If they're meant for regular circulation, the program is being led by a buffoon. $1 coins have failed to circulate every time they've been introduced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_B._Anthony_dollar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacagawea_dollar Dollars are worth a lot less now than they were. If vending machines start charging integer numbers of dollars, maybe dollar coins will catch on.

Vending machines are already taking credit cards, the dollar coin's time to catch on is long past.

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Post by dboreham »

engeljohnb wrote: post #250
dboreham wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Woz is a genius who invented the personal computer as we know it. History being written by the victors here, I believe. He designed some clever things for example bit-banging the floppy interface which allowed the Apple 2 to have floppies at a lower price point than competitors. Another innovation of the Apple 2 at the time was its use of a switched-mode PSU. It was almost certainly the first personal computer to h…

After looking more closely at the release dates of the earliest home computers, I found you're right. Three major home computers, all preassembled, with keyboard and video display and BASIC launched in 1977. Seems Apple II was not the first, only the most forward-looking of the three. I still don't credit Steve Jobs with starting any computing revolutions, in 1977 or 2008.

At the time it seemed that the advantage Apple had over the Pet and TRS-80 was the lower price-point for floppies and color, and over time much more software becoming available. Obviously those advantages weren't entirely due to luck -- Woz designed the low-cost floppy interface and someone specified the color modulator and enough memory for color graphics. Someone decided to use a switched mode PSU which made the Apple much lighter and therefore easier to lug around than a Pet. The general idea of "having a computer at home" had existed since the 1960s so I wouldn't credit Jobs with any amazing breakthrough in that regard.

Also worth noting that the Apple 2 was really a US/North America phenomenon. For example although they were sold in the UK (my school, unusually, had one), they were not popular and pretty much nobody had one in their home. So you might as well say that the person at the BBC who decided to commission the BBC Micro was the pioneer of personal computing. Or Clive Sinclair.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

danans wrote: post #219
shevy-java wrote: post #159

Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."

> Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? Forgetting bad actions is an essential part of the process of deification, and since ancient times, rulers who sought to be equated with gods would put their or their ancestors images on coins with a deity on the reverse side. Several coins in the US display slave owners because they are founding fathers, and the practice of putt…

People can remember both. Everyone has a good and bad side. We celebrate the good and condemn the bad.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

scoofy wrote: post #260
shevy-java wrote: post #159

Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."

This is one reason I support not putting humans on money . We used to put mythological figures on our coinage (liberty, justice, etc), because the are symbols and are uncomplicated by substance. Humans are flawed. Putting humans on money -- as symbols -- is going to make us go in circles about their imperfection. From Washington as a slave owner to Steve Jobs suppressing wages. This is not an issue if we just put the…

Mature thinkers can realize that humans are simultaneously good and bad. It’s perfectly fine to celebrate the good side while acknowledging their flaws.z
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