Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin
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Re: Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin
#262Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."
His ultimate crime of cheapness was pushing the $1-$3 app. He singlehandedly set the anchor price of the entire industry so low that he set in motion the whole freemium/monetization/enshittification trend.
Re: Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin
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The iPhone absolutely changed the world. I agree - it is not on the level of the green revolution or refrigeration. It still led to one of the largest paradigm shifts in end user computing, taking it from the desk or table at work or home into the hand, everywhere, for everyone.
I'm honestly still trying to wrap my head around in what way exactly the iPhone was innovative. It wasn't the first phone that could run programs, nor the first phone that could use the Internet (the "i" in "iPhone"). Perhaps it was the first phone that did both of those and also had a touchscreen, however that seems like an odd thing that would "take end-user computing from the desk to the hand, everywhere". I would…
Re: Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin
#264Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."
This is one reason I support not putting humans on money . We used to put mythological figures on our coinage (liberty, justice, etc), because the are symbols and are uncomplicated by substance. Humans are flawed. Putting humans on money -- as symbols -- is going to make us go in circles about their imperfection. From Washington as a slave owner to Steve Jobs suppressing wages. This is not an issue if we just put the…
Sadly, with that mentality we wouldn't have celebrities or perhaps even that many leaders. Fests like this are what drive some of the most driven people, and our biology makes us want to follow and admire other people as a former pack hunting species. The best we got is thst we can't put any living person on a coin (though, guess what the rumors are trying to say?)
Re: Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin
#265Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."
For real. Where is my Dennis Ritchie coin?
That is the interesting thing about tech. So many pioneers that transformed society are still around. It's a relatively young field that exploded over the last few decades.
Re: Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin
#266Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."
Yes ... Steve Jobs was a complete jerk, but he was a brilliant salesman and CEO, and you cannot deny that.
Then again, that's probably what most represent America of the last 50 yearss. Selling off all its talent overseas and then trying to sell off the idea of labor afterwards.
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Cordell Hull, architect of the United Nations, who won a Nobel peace prize for his work, was from Tennessee.
(Mods, I am sorry if this is getting off topic.) The KKK was founded in Pulaski, TN, which is about an hour from where I was raised. It wasn't until July, 2021 that the bust of the founder of the KKK (Nathan Bedford Forrest) was removed from the state capitol building. It's now been relocated to the 'TN State Museum' which was magically opened mere days after the bust was removed. I could provide countless more examp…
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> Ok? That doesn’t diminish in any way his technological and industrial accomplishments. Why are those the criteria for being on a coin? Neither Henry Ford nor John D Rockefeller are on coins. Jobs was dismissive of concerns about US technology manufacturing jobs being offshored to China, famously saying "Those jobs aren't coming back" [1]. He was right of course, and he seems to have consciously avoided involvement…
I'm personally glad that Steve Jobs wasn't a protectionist and we weren't all paying $2000 in 2011 dollars for an iPhone.
Tangent: I won't understand people hesitant to put down as much money on a phone as a desktop. Especially when considering that we know it costs more to shrink technology. If that's too much, oh well. I tend to buy 1-2 years previous when upgrading. Easily halves the price and the old flagship specs are still competitive.
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> I'm personally glad that Steve Jobs wasn't a protectionist Me also. What does that have to do with Jobs being represented on currency? Why not do the same for the pharmaceutical CEOs who have set up generic drug supply chains overseas, or the leaders of apparel companies who set up overseas sweatshops to enable us to have disposable clothing? Arguably, affordable antibiotics and underwear have made a vastly bigger…
I was addressing your point about Steve Jobs being a globalist, which you made out to be a bad thing. Globalism is a rising tide that lifts all boats. > Arguably, affordable antibiotics and underwear have made a vastly bigger positive impact on standard of living than iPhones. Maybe so, but "positive impact on standard of living" isn't the theme of this US Mint collection. The theme is "American Innovation."
But yeah it's all marketing. Who better than the marketer?
Re: Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin
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His ultimate crime of cheapness was pushing the $1-$3 app. He singlehandedly set the anchor price of the entire industry so low that he set in motion the whole freemium/monetization/enshittification trend.
I think even if the price was set high it would have devolved into enshitification and ad-infestation. With expensive televisions amd fridges pushing ads, it is not too far fetched. Expensive software is also going down the path of enshitification.
You add in a large screen and quick transactions and Asia would have hit f2p just as soon, with or without however America priced it.