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Zed is now available on Windows

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Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by scuff3d »

breadwinner wrote: post #44
scuff3d wrote: post #40

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This always makes me laugh. The editor was barely announced two years ago. They've built it from the ground up with native support now for three different operating systems. They're experimenting with some cool new features, and even though I don't care about it I've heard their AI integration is pretty damn good. But waaaaah they don't support a processor that accounts for probably less then 10% of Windows Machines

Ubiquity is pretty important when you're going to invest in learning a new editor. This is one of the advantages of vim for example. It is available everywhere... linux, windows, terminal, gui, etc.

You mean... like a GUI editor that runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux?

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by waterTanuki »

Rohansi wrote: post #13
zamadatix wrote: post #8

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Size on disk is about 64x less relevant than size in RAM for me. To give Zed some credit in this area, it's statically linked and the Linux binary is half the size as the Windows one.

What could they be statically linking to have a 400MB executable?

They wrote their own graphics renderering library for starters, that's bundled into the editor when compiled.

https://www.gpui.rs/

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by hdjrudni »

tremarley wrote: post #75
miffy900 wrote: post #72

Just wanted to mention that some basic Windows-OS keyboard shortcuts don't work, like ALT+F to open the File menu. Also things like ALT+SPACEBAR to bring up the system context menu for the focussed window (the menu with maximise, minimise, close options etc.) do not seem to work. I'm guessing with the DirectX rendering backend, the 'app' is rendered more akin to a video game than a native win32 process. Also after in…

A 400mb+ install of bloat will upset many people This needs to be justified asap to help people understand and reconsider installing it.

I was a little sus, so I checked: https://imgur.com/a/AJFQjfL

897MB! But it appears to have installed itself twice for some reason. Maybe one is an 'update' which it didn't clean up...? I'm not sure.

Edit: I just opened it and it cleaned itself up. 408MB now. I guess it was in the process of upgrading.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by hdjrudni »

foobarbaz33 wrote: post #54
0x696C6961 wrote: post #49

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That doesn't make sense, they both use tsserver under the hood.

You could have an lsp server of infinite speed, but that wouldn't help one bit if the bottleneck is how the client deals with the messaging. The specific techniques used to send, receive, and parse JSON could matter.

Could, ya, but I'd be pretty impressed and sad if Rust didn't have really good JSON parsers/serializers by now.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by heavyset_go »

rafram wrote: post #74
heavyset_go wrote: post #61

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They're productivity tools, not gaming software. You'll be faster and deal with less errors using the correct optimized remote desktop tool for your job, versus what you're using now, which can be slow and error prone.

> Moonlight > Open source game streaming client > Moonlight allows you to play your PC games on almost any device OK, fine, maybe Sunshine will be different. > Sunshine is a self-hosted game stream host for Moonlight. Maybe not.

My post was answering the question of how they should ask for permission to use it. You pitch it as productivity software that helps you do your job better.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by hdjrudni »

I switched from VSCode to Zed as my "I just need to edit this 1 little text file" app because VSCode was way too spammy. Every time I open it it wants to update something or complain about some extensions or complain that I had a file open and now it MUST close it because heaven forbid I open two things at once.

I hope Zed stays clean. We'll see. So far so good. Was quite happy they had a JetBrains base hotkey setup. Had to add a few of my own but I could pretty easily, nothing missing so far.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by steveklabnik »

hdjrudni wrote: post #84
foobarbaz33 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could have an lsp server of infinite speed, but that wouldn't help one bit if the bottleneck is how the client deals with the messaging. The specific techniques used to send, receive, and parse JSON could matter.

Could, ya, but I'd be pretty impressed and sad if Rust didn't have really good JSON parsers/serializers by now.

It’s had them for a very long time, pre-1.0.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by avdwrks »

jsheard wrote: post #10

Have they implemented subpixel font rendering by now? I remember that being a sticking point when it came to Linux because they had designed their custom UI renderer around the Macs ubiquitous HiDPI displays, leading to blurry fonts for the much, much larger proportion of Linux (and Windows) users who still use LoDPI displays.

I installed Zed and tested out a bunch of fonts on my 1440p monitor. It looks decent, but not great. I think that's more a byproduct of Windows' awful font rendering in general though moreso than a Zed specific problem. VSCode is no better.

Seems like the only way to get high quality font rendering these days is a 4k+ display.

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