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Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Zed looks and feels amazing to use. I test-drove it for a bit on my linux system, and the feel of it is difficult to convey to those who have not tried it yet. It's easy to overlook the significance of gpu accelerated editor - but I promise you, use it for a bit and you'll be sold. The only feature that is preventing me from switching to Zed is the current lack of DevContainer support[1]. After investing a significan…

What does having a DevContainer get you?

I’m all for documenting every bit of my setup, but beyond that…

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#72
Just wanted to mention that some basic Windows-OS keyboard shortcuts don't work, like ALT+F to open the File menu. Also things like ALT+SPACEBAR to bring up the system context menu for the focussed window (the menu with maximise, minimise, close options etc.) do not seem to work. I'm guessing with the DirectX rendering backend, the 'app' is rendered more akin to a video game than a native win32 process.

Also after install, the install directory takes up 400MB+. Even VSCode only takes up around 380MB. I believe it when they say it's not an Electron app, but I do wonder what's being packed in there. I was always under the impresion that Rust apps are pretty lightweight, but that install size is nearing Java levels of binary/dependency bloat.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#73
post #66

Zed looks and feels amazing to use. I test-drove it for a bit on my linux system, and the feel of it is difficult to convey to those who have not tried it yet. It's easy to overlook the significance of gpu accelerated editor - but I promise you, use it for a bit and you'll be sold. The only feature that is preventing me from switching to Zed is the current lack of DevContainer support[1]. After investing a significan…

It works with devpods

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#74

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How am I supposed to ask for permission from IT to install Steam or gaming related tools like Moonshine just to use a code editor?

They're productivity tools, not gaming software. You'll be faster and deal with less errors using the correct optimized remote desktop tool for your job, versus what you're using now, which can be slow and error prone.

> Moonlight

> Open source game streaming client

> Moonlight allows you to play your PC games on almost any device

OK, fine, maybe Sunshine will be different.

> Sunshine is a self-hosted game stream host for Moonlight.

Maybe not.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#75

Just wanted to mention that some basic Windows-OS keyboard shortcuts don't work, like ALT+F to open the File menu. Also things like ALT+SPACEBAR to bring up the system context menu for the focussed window (the menu with maximise, minimise, close options etc.) do not seem to work. I'm guessing with the DirectX rendering backend, the 'app' is rendered more akin to a video game than a native win32 process. Also after in…

A 400mb+ install of bloat will upset many people

This needs to be justified asap to help people understand and reconsider installing it.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#76

Just wanted to mention that some basic Windows-OS keyboard shortcuts don't work, like ALT+F to open the File menu. Also things like ALT+SPACEBAR to bring up the system context menu for the focussed window (the menu with maximise, minimise, close options etc.) do not seem to work. I'm guessing with the DirectX rendering backend, the 'app' is rendered more akin to a video game than a native win32 process. Also after in…

Just so others here know, it’s possible to have a graphics context and a Win32 menu bar in the same window.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#77

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Idk about subpixel font rendering, but font rendering on Linux looks massively better after a patch last week: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7992#issuecomme...

I'm glad there's finally some progress in that direction. If they actually implement subpixel RGB anti-aliasing, it would definitely be worth considering as an alternative. It's been surprising to see so many people praise Zed when its text rendering (of all things) has been in such a state for so long.

Yea, I tried to give it a go on Fedora, but the terrible text rendering made it a insta-delete, for me.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#79

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considering how cheap storage is nowadays nitpicking about binary size is a very weird take. Are you editing code on an esp32?

I just refuse to use any software that baloons it's filesize. Not because I can't afford storage, but because there are always alternatives that have similar features and packed into fraction (usually less than 1%) of filesize. If one of them can do it and other can't, it's a bad product, that I have no intention to support. We should strive to write better software that is faster, smaller and more resilient. "Storag…

I can empathize with how lazy some developers have gotten with program sizes. I stopped playing CoD because I refused to download their crap 150+ GB games with less content than alot of other titles that are much smaller.

That said, storage is cheap, it's not a mentality but a simple statement of fact. You think zed balloons their file sizes because the developers are lazy. It's not true. It's because the users have become lazy. No one wants to spend time downloading the correct libraries to use software anymore. We've seen a rise in binary sizes in most software because of a rise in static linking, which does increase binary size, but makes using and testing the actual software much less of a pain. Not to mention the benefits in reduced memory overhead.

VSCode and other editors aren't smaller because the developers are somehow better or more clever. They're using dynamic linking to call into libraries on the OS. This linking itself is a small overhead, but overhead none-the-less, and all so they can use electron + javascript, the real culprits which made people switch to neovim + zed in the first place. 400mb is such a cheap price to pay for a piece of software I use on a daily basis.

I'm not here to convince you to use Zed or any editor for that matter. Use what you want. But you're not going to somehow change this trend by dying on this hill, because unless you're working with actual hardware constraints, dynamic linking makes no sense nowadays. There's no such thing as silver bullet in software. Everything is a tradeoff, and the resounding answer has been people are more than happy to trade disk space for lower memory & cpu usage.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

#80
I use this as Sublime replacement on my macOS. So far happy with it. Only use it as a general purpose text editor.

Okay, I may ocassionally do some code editing on it. But most of the time it's gotta be VSCode or vim/nvim.

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