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Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by greg5green »

shadowpho wrote: post #339
ExoticPearTree wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Broadcom WiFi support 320Mhz while N1 is stuck with 160Mhz. I was at a Wi-Fi vendor presentation a while back and they said that 160 Mhz is pretty improbable unless you're leaving alone and no wireless networks around you. And 320 Mhz even less so. In real life probably the best you can get is 80 Mhz in a really good wireless environment.

For which band? I run 160/160 on 5/6ghz and it’s nice. They are short range enough to work. For 2.4 yeah 20mhz only

For 5ghz, that's a pretty unusual. You need to be somewhere where DFS isn't an issue to even get 160mhz.

For 6ghz? Yeah, not uncommon.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by doug_durham »

hannesfur wrote: post #242
trymas wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the main thing limiting Apple Intelligence (in my opinion) will continue to be the 8 GB of unified memory they still insist on. As you said - it won’t help previous generations, though since last year (or two??) all macs start with 16GB of memory. Even entry level macbook airs.

Thats true! I was referring to their wider line up, especially the iPad, where users will expect the same performance as on the Mac’s (they payed for an Mx chip) and they sold me an iPad Air this year that comes with a really fast M3 and still only 8 GB of RAM (you only get 16 on the iPad Pro btw if you go with at least 1TB of storage on the M4 Pro one)

"They sold me"? You me you bought.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by sample2 »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #326
mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

There are so many software related things that drive me absolutely loony with Apple right now. * My iPhone as a remote for my Apple TV has randomly stopped deciding it can control the volume - despite the "Now Playing" UI offering an audio control that works. There auth screens drive me crazy: * Why cannot I not punch in a password while Face ID is working? If I'm skiing, I know Face ID isn't gong to work, stop makin…

I see the same bug with the remote on my phone, how did they manage to break volume control in the app while keeping it working from the lock screen “now playing”?

I’ve also been unable to get the remote app on my watch to work at all. It’s hard to imagine people working at Apple don’t also run into these issues all the time.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by wina »

allenrb wrote: post #514

I’d like a filter to remove all mention of AI and associated performance from copy like this. Maybe I can build it with… nvm. Seriously, can’t you tell me about the CPU cores and their performance?

why do you want more CPU cores and better performance than the M4, if not for running local AI models?

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by tantalor »

qnpnp wrote: post #414
tantalor wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because gaming on Mac actually looks bad in practice. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44906305

This is easy to fix, not an explanation. Gaming on mac is indeed lacking, but that's really not the reason.

It's a symptom of the deeper problem: Apple does not value game developers or the experience of users.

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Post by mschuster91 »

sotix wrote: post #475
SkyPuncher wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are so many software related things that drive me absolutely loony with Apple right now. * My iPhone as a remote for my Apple TV has randomly stopped deciding it can control the volume - despite the "Now Playing" UI offering an audio control that works. There auth screens drive me crazy: * Why cannot I not punch in a password while Face ID is working? If I'm skiing, I know Face ID isn't gong to work, stop makin…

Why can I not use my password manager for my Apple ID but can use it for any other password field? Instead I have to switch to my password manager, copy the password, reopen the App Store, select get app, and paste the password in the Apple ID login pop up in the 10 seconds before my password clears from my clipboard.

Been ages but I think you can mitigate that annoyance by approving fingerprint purchases.

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Post by adastra22 »

wina wrote: post #524
allenrb wrote: post #514

I’d like a filter to remove all mention of AI and associated performance from copy like this. Maybe I can build it with… nvm. Seriously, can’t you tell me about the CPU cores and their performance?

why do you want more CPU cores and better performance than the M4, if not for running local AI models?

COU cores aren’t relevant to running AI?

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by pier25 »

ozaiworld wrote: post #255
pier25 wrote: post #246

Does the M5 feature the UltraFusion connector which would enable the Ultra variant?

that would likely only be present on the Max chip of the M5 generation

thanks I had always assumed it needed to be present in the base design of the chip

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Post by runjake »

kokada wrote: post #137
mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

> Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same tasks ive been last couple of years. I have a work provided M2 Pro with 32GB of RAM. After the Tahoe upgrade it feels like one of the sluggish PCs at the house. It is the only one that I can see the mouse teleporting sometimes when I move it fast. This is after disabling transparency in Accessibility settings mind you, it was even worse before.

It's probably due to the Electron bug[1]. A lot of common apps haven't patched up yet.

I also have an M2 Pro with 32GB of memory. When I A/B test with Electron apps running vs without, the lag disappears when all the unpatched Electron apps are closed out.

1. https://avarayr.github.io/shamelectron/

Here's a script I got from somewhere that shows unpatched Electron apps on your system:

Edit: HN nerfed the script. Found a direct link: https://gist.github.com/tkafka/e3eb63a5ec448e9be6701bfd1f1b1...

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by adastra22 »

mentalgear wrote: post #134
mohsen1 wrote: post #87

First time seeing Apple using "AI" in their marketing material. It was "Machine Learning" and "Apple Intelligence" before...

Unfortunately, they have also succumbed to the AI hype machine. Apple, calling it by its actual name "machine learning" was about the only thing I still liked about Apple.

Machine learning is a bit more specific than what we now call AI, no?
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