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I hope Apple understands that when it comes to a physical computing device, people (including me) care about look and feel (stylishness) a lot more than voice recognition.
Yeah, but what happens when your phone is google glass (could happen in 2 years). Style would end up be just the frame you can buy anywhere.
Has Apple Peaked?
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Re: Has Apple Peaked?
#82Yeah, it sucks that iOS6 maps aren't as good as iOS5 maps.
Does taking a step backward on (important) iOS app mean Apple has peaked? Probably not.
Will the general consumer be happy enough with the iPhone5/iOS6 as a whole that they will tolerate (and then forget about) Maps's reduction in quality? Probably.
Will Apple improve Maps so that in 6-12 months where the iOS6 maps quality is on par with iOS5 maps? Probably.
Time will tell - but my money is this is a classic case of the media/blogs trolling for page views, the general consumer not noticing (ala antenna-gate), and all this will be forgotten in a month.
...and Job's reign had missteps as well - from imac disc mouse to iphone cellular performance on at&t to mobileme to iphone4 antenna. Apple's great power is they make the entire package so enchanting that consumers tolerate issues until they can be resolved.
Re: Has Apple Peaked?
#83No, it's not interesting. It shows a simplistic view of Apple and how companies function. There were missteps while Jobs was alive, and obviously Apple's recent announcements were plans that Jobs was somewhat involved in (he worked almost up until his death).
In a month or two this Maps debacle will be stale news, and the bloggers will onto the next shiny toy or minor misstep.
Re: Has Apple Peaked?
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While the headline is inflammatory, the article itself is not so bad. He makes some valid observation about how the market and Apple's position in it have changed, making it harder for them to be the new and innovative player as they have more and more to lose by taking risky moves. In general however I agree with your sentiment.
>While the headline is inflammatory, the article itself is not so bad. He makes some valid observation about how the market and Apple's position in it have changed, making it harder for them to be the new and innovative player as they have more and more to lose by taking risky moves. They have made the EXACT same arguments since after the iPod. The Zune was to kill it, cheap alternatives were going to kill it. Didn't…
Just because something hasn't happened in the past doesn't mean it won't happen in the future.
Re: Has Apple Peaked?
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>While the headline is inflammatory, the article itself is not so bad. He makes some valid observation about how the market and Apple's position in it have changed, making it harder for them to be the new and innovative player as they have more and more to lose by taking risky moves. They have made the EXACT same arguments since after the iPod. The Zune was to kill it, cheap alternatives were going to kill it. Didn't…
Your argument is spurious at best. It's akin to saying the "big one" didn't hit San Francisco in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011, so therefore it won't hit in what's remaining of 2012. Just because something hasn't happened in the past doesn't mean it won't happen in the future.
In other words, it's not an argument that this can't happen, merely an argument that the original argument is baseless.
Re: Has Apple Peaked?
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your argument is spurious at best. It's akin to saying the "big one" didn't hit San Francisco in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011, so therefore it won't hit in what's remaining of 2012. Just because something hasn't happened in the past doesn't mean it won't happen in the future.
No, it's more akin to somebody arguing that the "big one" will hit in what's remaining of 2012, and somebody else responding to that argument by noting that the same conditions used in the argument prevailed in past years when the "big one" did not hit. In other words, it's not an argument that this can't happen, merely an argument that the original argument is baseless.
Re: Has Apple Peaked?
#87I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.) The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if…
One thing he correctly points out is how much better Apple Maps would have been if Mr. Jobs were around. Apple Maps is too big of a blunder for Apple to contain its criticism.
I keep seeing people say this, but I never hear anyone say exactly what he would have done to make it happen. People basically treat Jobs as magical fairy pixie dust that could be sprinkled on a project to make it awesome. As if Jobs never oversaw the production of anything bad.
Re: Has Apple Peaked?
#88The canonization of Steve Jobs as some sort of saint auteur is just freaking ridiculous. Apple has made missteps in the past, while Steve Jobs was alive. That Jobs was not around for this particular misstep isn't particularly interesting or relevant. The disappearance of Google Maps is a consequence of the breakdown of relations between Google and Apple, and that is not about Steve Jobs. Making it about him is just s…
Re: Has Apple Peaked?
#89This iOS6 Maps controversy smacks of Antenna-gate. Picking on one shortcoming and heralding the downfall of Apple/iPhone. Yeah, it sucks that iOS6 maps aren't as good as iOS5 maps. Does taking a step backward on (important) iOS app mean Apple has peaked? Probably not. Will the general consumer be happy enough with the iPhone5/iOS6 as a whole that they will tolerate (and then forget about) Maps's reduction in quality?…
Re: Has Apple Peaked?
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it's more akin to somebody arguing that the "big one" will hit in what's remaining of 2012, and somebody else responding to that argument by noting that the same conditions used in the argument prevailed in past years when the "big one" did not hit. In other words, it's not an argument that this can't happen, merely an argument that the original argument is baseless.
Yep, you're right and I'm wrong! I misinterpreted the comment I replied to!