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Has Apple Peaked?

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Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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They probably have, but that doesn't mean they don't have a lot of great contributions ahead.

The last decade at Apple has been a once-in-a-century run; we might all die before seeing another company pull something like that off again.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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If it reshifted to data science from hardware, it has the most cash of any tech company and could grow even larger. Steve Wozniak recently talked about smartphones having AI so this might be already in the works (focus on improving siri rather than stylishness).

I hope Apple understands that when it comes to a physical computing device, people (including me) care about look and feel (stylishness) a lot more than voice recognition.

Yeah, but what happens when your phone is google glass (could happen in 2 years). Style would end up be just the frame you can buy anywhere.

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If I live in Manhattan and extensively use Maps for public transport info, is it true that feature no longer exists? If so, I'm going to wait before upgrading to iOS 6. Widespread blunder like this does so much to hurt the Apple brand especially in light of an ambitious competitor like Samsung. Apple should realize that even its biggest fan boys will begin rethinking if you cripple basic parts of their product repeat…

I was planning on buying the new iphone but after upgrading my iPhone 4 to iOS I'm having second thoughts. I might just go and get the S3 or wait for Note2 to come out.

What was it running before iOS?

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Part of this is the same old rehashed-to-death "would Jobs allow a misstep" revisionism, but the question about protecting the current success is a more interesting one I haven't seen elsewhere. Apple, from '97 until now, hasn't been afraid to cannibalize their old mainstay products -- and that's where I think the absence of Jobs (and just the sheer size of the iOS success) might change things.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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About two years ago, I thought the iPod had peaked and couldn't go anywhere. Yet look at the new iPod Nano.

The problem is not that apples new products aren't improving, but that they are no longer miles ahead of their smartphone competitors. Android is now a compelling alternative. Apple will eventually release a iPhone nano, but Samsung will release a galaxy micro before or soon after. Has any company in history been so large and yet so reliant on a single product? Because of this I am fat to nervous to invest in apple,…

> Has any company in history been so large and yet so reliant on a single product?

Google? (AdWords)

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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If I live in Manhattan and extensively use Maps for public transport info, is it true that feature no longer exists? If so, I'm going to wait before upgrading to iOS 6. Widespread blunder like this does so much to hurt the Apple brand especially in light of an ambitious competitor like Samsung. Apple should realize that even its biggest fan boys will begin rethinking if you cripple basic parts of their product repeat…

Aren't there 100 transit apps for Manhatten? Are they not as good as Google's?

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was planning on buying the new iphone but after upgrading my iPhone 4 to iOS I'm having second thoughts. I might just go and get the S3 or wait for Note2 to come out.

What was it running before iOS?

good catch, I missed the 6

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.) The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if…

I agree - the article was basically a cheap trolling shot at Apple. It ignored a lot of history (remember the initial release of OS X?) and overplayed the map problems. FWIW, iOS6 Maps work great for me, and I live on a private rural road. Apple has always incrementally improved its products, and Maps will be no exception.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Apple will never be able to match Google in Maps. Here's why: Apple does not have any technical depth. I am a former Apple employee. Apple can't do technically hard problems that require a multi-person effort. Yes, Apple can and has done good Hardware. But hardware is not technically hard - its an art. Apple is good at Art. Google is good at science.

Wow - did you work at the Apple Store, because that comment is very short sighted. In terms of technical problems that require multi-person effort, OSX is a testament to that, as is Motion, Logic Pro and Compressor. All those are highly technical pieces of software that lead their respective markets. To say Apple can't "do" technically hard problems is extremely short sighted.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.) The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if…

While the headline is inflammatory, the article itself is not so bad. He makes some valid observation about how the market and Apple's position in it have changed, making it harder for them to be the new and innovative player as they have more and more to lose by taking risky moves. In general however I agree with your sentiment.

>While the headline is inflammatory, the article itself is not so bad. He makes some valid observation about how the market and Apple's position in it have changed, making it harder for them to be the new and innovative player as they have more and more to lose by taking risky moves.

They have made the EXACT same arguments since after the iPod.

The Zune was to kill it, cheap alternatives were going to kill it. Didn't happen.

Then they put out the iPhone.

It was doomed, they said at first, then Android was going to kill it, then the Antennagate, then the 4S was not impressive enough, etc.

Then the iPad came out, and at first it was "just a large iPhone" and it will fail, then it was gonna be killed by Windows tablets, then by Android tablets, then the Kindle Fire.

They never stop in the same bloody vein. How about instead of BS predictions they do some REPORTING?

I.e tell how Apple does based on numbers, and report it when they --inevitable at some point-- start losing out? Why do they feel they have to play prophets?

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