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Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Post by pgeorgi »

Karunamon wrote: post #29
asr wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree with your larger point, but your tone is a bit argumentative. Also, civil disobedience doesn't mean what you think it means: much like civil disobedience, you have no right to complain once you are found to be breaking the law/policy and are punished for it Civil disobedience is all about breaking the law in order to maintain the right to complain. "Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place fo…

It's argumentative because poorly constructed appeals to emotion usually have the opposite effect on me. Anyways, by the comment about civil disobedience, I meant that, if you willfully break a law you feel to be unjust, what comes with that is a reasonable expectation of the punishment for breaking that law to be meted out. I see it kind of like a button that says "By clicking okay, you will be punched in the face".…

Unfortunately many people don't react on reason without an emotional component. "X really happened" can help there.

That fits the Facebook situation rather well: "Oh, they want you to give a real name snicker Seymour Butz will do". There used to be an expectation that such rules aren't really enforced.

Now they are, and it's notable that Facebook picks a method (reporting on your friends) with a certain tradition.

As a side note: That approach and "don't complain" go well together: said tradition didn't favor free speech, either.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

Smudge wrote: post #21

Enforcing real names has pros and cons. For Facebook as a business, the pros certainly outweigh the value lost when accounts can't be mapped directly to real people. Names are a key part of that mapping. In general, I prefer an option for pseudonymity, because it is much more inclusive (allowing certain people at the fringes to feel more comfortable joining in -- victims of abuse, political dissidents, etc), and is m…

Real names policies are questionable but debatable. Asking friends to report friends to some authority reveals utter contempt for the very personal relationships that Facebook supposedly thrives on.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Post by jordanthoms »

psbp wrote: post #67
prodigal_erik wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What Facebook and Google+ gain in politesse, they lose in depth and honesty. I can't assume I'll be held "accountable" in a just way by every prospective employer, apartment manager, or lover I'll ever meet, so these venues get empty pleasantries from me, certainly nothing controversial in any way.

Now imagine a whole generation socializing under these artificial restrictions. Can you imagine how stifling being raised under an umbrella of constant surveillance by your peer group, family, future employers and advertisers would be to your personality and relationships? We're developing a society of sociopatic egotists.

... and the only cure is 4chan!

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Post by muuh-gnu »

Evbn wrote: post #50
Karunamon wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate?

Isolation from friends and family. Like not being able to go to your moms house because her neighbor might try to kill you and her if he discovers she is your mom.

The conclusion "no facebook = severe social isolation" (including being cut off from ones own family) only works under the assumption that basically everyone everywhere forgot how to socialize without "social" and that interaction without facebook is somehow impossible or at least hard. This assumption is maniacally and laughably absurd. I can not even fathom how the planet might look where such a statement might sound reasonable.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Post by finnw »

civilian wrote: post #71
Karunamon wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's argumentative because poorly constructed appeals to emotion usually have the opposite effect on me. Anyways, by the comment about civil disobedience, I meant that, if you willfully break a law you feel to be unjust, what comes with that is a reasonable expectation of the punishment for breaking that law to be meted out. I see it kind of like a button that says "By clicking okay, you will be punched in the face".…

You'd make a great henchman in a totalitarian regime.

> You'd make a great henchman in a totalitarian regime.

I'm not sure whether this counts as a Godwin

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Post by DanBC »

mkjones wrote: post #41

Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over. We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of…

     [mkjones]
     - I do not know this person.
     - I do not think this is a real name

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Post by caf »

Karunamon wrote: post #32
fleitz wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is a "real" name vs. one that is not "real"? Did you mean legal name? And if so does that exclude legal aliases? What about Madonna, is that her 'real' name?

Are you called "fleitz" in real life? No? That is not your real name then. It is a pseudonym. This isn't rocket science.

What's not real about Facebook?
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