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Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over.

We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of their friends.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #9

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This is not a website. This is a massive web of communications, past and present. This is not a wire tap without a permit, this is a permanent archive of every sniffle. Guys with warrants and/or guns get what they want, and Facebook has what they want. Does Mark Zuckerburg strike you as the kind of fella who will go to prison to fight for your privacy?

This is not a wire tap without a permit, this is a permanent archive of every sniffle Uploaded willfully by the people concerned. What is hard to understand about "don't put something online you don't want others to have access to"? (Values of "others" change with the service involved.. but you'd have to be frankly, moronic to put something on a social network site and not expect it to be accessible to others, as wel…

Well, that's a very simplistic view, but I'm not up for the challenge presently. If all Facebook users were legal adults, you'd be on less shaky ground.

However, I was thinking more about private messages and chats, tracking cookies, etc. Also pernicious: being tagged in other people's content.

Tying a real name to private data can have repercussions, even for responsible law abiding adults -- especially when the data is archived indefinitely, in one convenient central location.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #26

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It seems like it would be more sensible for them to use modified names inside the prison. Of course, they probably don't get to choose what name to use in the prison.

I think that both guards and inmates should be assigned fake names in prison, or addressed simply by number, to avoid prison interactions spilling out of the prison and affecting prisoners' families etc. Of course, the danger with this is that abuses within prison would become harder to track and account for.

I'm not entirely sure how it works inside, I just know the reason my brother-in-law has a modified name on Facebook. As for the inmates, they obviously all have numbers but any prison guard can look them up in the computer.

Fun fact: Portions of the numbers on an inmate's chest refers to things like the year they entered the prison, what number they are for the year that they entered, what they're in for and either how long or when they get released.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #41

Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over. We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of…

Is there also a team that sits around and thinks up ways to make Facebook even creepier? They're doing a good job.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #21

Enforcing real names has pros and cons. For Facebook as a business, the pros certainly outweigh the value lost when accounts can't be mapped directly to real people. Names are a key part of that mapping. In general, I prefer an option for pseudonymity, because it is much more inclusive (allowing certain people at the fringes to feel more comfortable joining in -- victims of abuse, political dissidents, etc), and is m…

So is facebook meant to be a service for your close friends and family or a broader social network that promotes businesses, news, celebrities; a wider discussion? If it wants to be both, there are only cons. You can't conflate personal relationships with media discussions and advertising. This is why facebook is ultimately a doomed prospect (either socially and/or financially). It's either successful as a true social network, or it's an ad/personal information scam.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #41

Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over. We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of…

1) The idea of people giving out information about their friends to an anonymous entity such as Facebook is going to result in a considerable increase in paranoia no matter what you say.

2) The claim that real identities result in either greater safety or greater civility has been debunked here quite a number of times here. After all, probably the largest number of people who are using pseudonyms are doing so out of a desire for safety.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #41

Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over. We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of…

Then why the other three options? Why not just "I don't know this person" or "Ignore this message"?

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #41

Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over. We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of…

That doesn't mean what you're doing is not inherently sociopathic.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #41

Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over. We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of…

I sure hope your response is authentic. You might not use that information now, but you may potentially at a later date, i.e., warn a user to use their real name and if not you're account is suspended until doing so. Facebook's in the information business and now that you're a publicly traded company, the higher ups want to look good on the balance sheet and search is your organizations next step. This seems like a slippery slope to me.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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post #25

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I'd argue that people do suffer material damage by being blocked from using Facebook.

Could you elaborate?

Isolation from friends and family. Like not being able to go to your moms house because her neighbor might try to kill you and her if he discovers she is your mom.
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