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Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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Agree with your larger point, but your tone is a bit argumentative. Also, civil disobedience doesn't mean what you think it means: much like civil disobedience, you have no right to complain once you are found to be breaking the law/policy and are punished for it Civil disobedience is all about breaking the law in order to maintain the right to complain. "Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place fo…

It's argumentative because poorly constructed appeals to emotion usually have the opposite effect on me. Anyways, by the comment about civil disobedience, I meant that, if you willfully break a law you feel to be unjust, what comes with that is a reasonable expectation of the punishment for breaking that law to be meted out. I see it kind of like a button that says "By clicking okay, you will be punched in the face".…

You'd make a great henchman in a totalitarian regime.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

#72

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It's argumentative because poorly constructed appeals to emotion usually have the opposite effect on me. Anyways, by the comment about civil disobedience, I meant that, if you willfully break a law you feel to be unjust, what comes with that is a reasonable expectation of the punishment for breaking that law to be meted out. I see it kind of like a button that says "By clicking okay, you will be punched in the face".…

You'd make a great henchman in a totalitarian regime.

Above: An example of a weak appeal to emotion

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

#73
post #41

Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over. We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of…

As someone who had the promise of Google Plus completely ruined when the nymwars chased my largely-pseudonymous-on-the-Internet circles away, I plan to be either consistently lying when presented with this "is this their real name?" dialogue box, or simply rolling a die to choose my answer.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

#74
post #11

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What is a "real" name vs. one that is not "real"? Did you mean legal name? And if so does that exclude legal aliases? What about Madonna, is that her 'real' name?

Apparently the name "Madonna" is real enough for Facebook (though they probably have exemptions for famous people). https://www.facebook.com/madonna

That is a page, not a timeline :)

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

#75
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What Facebook and Google+ gain in politesse, they lose in depth and honesty. I can't assume I'll be held "accountable" in a just way by every prospective employer, apartment manager, or lover I'll ever meet, so these venues get empty pleasantries from me, certainly nothing controversial in any way.

Now imagine a whole generation socializing under these artificial restrictions. Can you imagine how stifling being raised under an umbrella of constant surveillance by your peer group, family, future employers and advertisers would be to your personality and relationships? We're developing a society of sociopatic egotists.

I should upvote you more than once! This is exactly one of the items nobody has on the radar right now.

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

#76
post #11

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What is a "real" name vs. one that is not "real"? Did you mean legal name? And if so does that exclude legal aliases? What about Madonna, is that her 'real' name?

Are you called "fleitz" in real life? No? That is not your real name then. It is a pseudonym. This isn't rocket science.

What if people call me "T-Bone"?

The divide between "real name" and "pseudonym" is very fuzzy as soon as you step outside the "engineer box" and look at real world data. Many people in this world go by names that you would never expect to see on their driver license or passport, both of which seem to be things Facebook asks users provide to "prove" their "real names".

And lets not even get started on the fact that facebook is in fact part of real life. If people call you a certain name on facebook, they are calling you that in real life. Different names for different social situation is far from unheard of. Which is "real"?

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

#77
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post #12

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There is a 0% chance that Facebook does not record your response to every request.

If it turns out it isn't anonymous and they are shutting down accounts over it, can there be any repercussions for them lying like that or is it just "unethical"?

Funny - it says they won't take any action over it. Do I trust that?

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

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It's argumentative because poorly constructed appeals to emotion usually have the opposite effect on me. Anyways, by the comment about civil disobedience, I meant that, if you willfully break a law you feel to be unjust, what comes with that is a reasonable expectation of the punishment for breaking that law to be meted out. I see it kind of like a button that says "By clicking okay, you will be punched in the face".…

You'd make a great henchman in a totalitarian regime.

You'd make a great persecutor in a totally liberal regime.

Honestly, I don't think that. But could you try to focus on the argument and not the person? Your ad hominem attack has contributed nothing - just like my first sentence contributed nothing either!

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

#79
post #41

Hey folks - I work on the Site Integrity team at Facebook. We work to keep people safe from scams, spam, fake accounts, and having their account taken over. We're always looking for ways to better understand how people represent themselves online and improve the design of our service. We look at the results of this kind of experiment in aggregate - the responses doesn't have any impact on the user account or that of…

Presumably you are storing the individual submissions, even if the reports generated are aggregate.

What safeguards are in place to make sure that the information is not used in the future to target accounts for suspension?

Re: Facebook Wants You To Snitch On Friends Not Using Their Real Name

#80
Every time fb does something scummy, and people act surprised, I am surprised. They've proven themselves to have the morals of a used car dealer. Why would you trust them, or be surprised when they act untrustworthy?

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." No?

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