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Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more nuanced than that. Microsoft is desperate for growth in a growth challenged macro, and Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth. That's one part of the AI slop shovel. The second part is institutions that are desperate to cut labor costs or find other efficiency gains to maintain historical financial performance targets during ZIRP that are sim…

> Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth I read a couple of articles and he seems to have been completely suckered in by the damn thing from https://archive.is/oWbZB#selection-2387.572-2401.668 > Copilot consumes Nadella’s life outside the office as well. He likes podcasts, but instead of listening to them, he loads transcripts into the Copilot app on his iPho…

At some point a mistake will be made that will be very embarrassing for someone that matters

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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For context, this is the whole list of metrics measured by their Eye of Sauron tool, Viva Insights – it seems to be split between Outlook, Teams, Office, and Copilot data. The Outlook and Teams stuff seems to relate to time spent on their individual platforms, but the Copilot-by-app stuff is hilarious. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/viva/insights/advanced/ref... I look forward to the equivalent of a mouse jiggler.

That's insane. It's almost all collaboration, chats, and meetings. Getting stuff done seems to be a lower priority.

Depending on the role, I could see these scores being a negative indicator. For example, if you are an engineer, spending your entire day in Teams would be an explanation for lower productivity. But, if you're a manager, a high degree of engagement with Teams might be more appropriate.

I'm not looking forward to the inevitable leaderboard games with these scores.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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They’re so desperate to make it work. > “A source that has seen materials related to sales has confirmed that, as of August 2025, Microsoft has around eight million active licensed users of Microsoft 365 Copilot, amounting to a 1.81% conversion rate across the 440 million Microsoft 365 subscribers.” Microsoft 365 Copilot's commercial failure - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45476045 - October 2025

I seem to remember a similar arc with Cortana. Didn't it briefly appear everywhere in MS365?

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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> It will also be possible to compare an organization's percentage of active Copilot users with other companies. The numbers are calculated using randomized mathematical models, according to Microsoft, so no one company's data is used, and it isn't possible to work out who is in the benchmark against which your own company's Copilot adoption is being measured. Somehow, I'm confident the result will almost always be t…

Imagine going to Ignite and talking to your counterparts in a bunch of other companies. Then you realize that you've all got the same percentage of utilization. :)

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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For context, this is the whole list of metrics measured by their Eye of Sauron tool, Viva Insights – it seems to be split between Outlook, Teams, Office, and Copilot data. The Outlook and Teams stuff seems to relate to time spent on their individual platforms, but the Copilot-by-app stuff is hilarious. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/viva/insights/advanced/ref... I look forward to the equivalent of a mouse jiggler.

Well Peter Thiel did refer to Bill Gates as the anti-christ.

pot calling the kettle black moment

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more nuanced than that. Microsoft is desperate for growth in a growth challenged macro, and Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth. That's one part of the AI slop shovel. The second part is institutions that are desperate to cut labor costs or find other efficiency gains to maintain historical financial performance targets during ZIRP that are sim…

> Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth I read a couple of articles and he seems to have been completely suckered in by the damn thing from https://archive.is/oWbZB#selection-2387.572-2401.668 > Copilot consumes Nadella’s life outside the office as well. He likes podcasts, but instead of listening to them, he loads transcripts into the Copilot app on his iPho…

People have "satired" similar hypotheticals about Sam Altman [0], and we know it's happened with people like Blake lemoine.

It makes me curious how much, if any, of the current LLM hype is simply coming from people who are dealing with the ELIZA effect.

[0] https://medium.com/where-thought-bends/the-7-trillion-delusi...

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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Claude is better. End of.

LLMs are on a very steep improvement curve, in general. Claude is good today. Something else from some group that figures out the next useful optimization will be better tomorrow. Repeat/rinse for at least 10 years..

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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They’re so desperate to make it work. > “A source that has seen materials related to sales has confirmed that, as of August 2025, Microsoft has around eight million active licensed users of Microsoft 365 Copilot, amounting to a 1.81% conversion rate across the 440 million Microsoft 365 subscribers.” Microsoft 365 Copilot's commercial failure - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45476045 - October 2025

My company has both enterprise ChatGPT and Copilot. We originally had CoPilot; we learned it can search for files on OneDrive and Emails and that is the extent of its usefulness. Because everyone was doing work on their personal ChatGPT, the company had to buy the enterprise version of ChatGPT due to risk/compliance issues. Although CoPilot supposedly runs using the same engine, it feels severely limited compared to ChatGPT.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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For context, this is the whole list of metrics measured by their Eye of Sauron tool, Viva Insights – it seems to be split between Outlook, Teams, Office, and Copilot data. The Outlook and Teams stuff seems to relate to time spent on their individual platforms, but the Copilot-by-app stuff is hilarious. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/viva/insights/advanced/ref... I look forward to the equivalent of a mouse jiggler.

There's a baked-in but flawed assumption those tools are good for productivity.
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