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Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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They’re so desperate to make it work. > “A source that has seen materials related to sales has confirmed that, as of August 2025, Microsoft has around eight million active licensed users of Microsoft 365 Copilot, amounting to a 1.81% conversion rate across the 440 million Microsoft 365 subscribers.” Microsoft 365 Copilot's commercial failure - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45476045 - October 2025

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Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point its a sunk cost fallacy

I think it's more nuanced than that. Microsoft is desperate for growth in a growth challenged macro, and Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth. That's one part of the AI slop shovel. The second part is institutions that are desperate to cut labor costs or find other efficiency gains to maintain historical financial performance targets during ZIRP that are sim…

> Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth

I read a couple of articles and he seems to have been completely suckered in by the damn thing

from https://archive.is/oWbZB#selection-2387.572-2401.668

> Copilot consumes Nadella’s life outside the office as well. He likes podcasts, but instead of listening to them, he loads transcripts into the Copilot app on his iPhone so he can chat with the voice assistant about the content of an episode in the car on his commute to Redmond. At the office, he relies on Copilot to deliver summaries of messages he receives in Outlook and Teams and toggles among at least 10 custom agents from Copilot Studio. He views them as his AI chiefs of staff, delegating meeting prep, research and other tasks to the bots. “I’m an email typist,” Nadella jokes of his job, noting that Copilot is thankfully very good at triaging his messages.

this is no different to ending up in an alternate reality populated by your AI "girlfriends"

and will produce similar results

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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I guess teams that are clever enough to avoid Copilot are also clever enough to write a script to call it on repeat in the background, while they are doing something more useful. Autonomous agents are all the rage anyway, isn't it?

Didn't Excel just gain a COPILOT() function? You don't even have to be particularly clever to do this.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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They’re so desperate to make it work. > “A source that has seen materials related to sales has confirmed that, as of August 2025, Microsoft has around eight million active licensed users of Microsoft 365 Copilot, amounting to a 1.81% conversion rate across the 440 million Microsoft 365 subscribers.” Microsoft 365 Copilot's commercial failure - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45476045 - October 2025

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Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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Leadership - "All employees are required to use AI and be X% more productive"

Employees find that AI tools are useless and don't increase productivity.

Leaders say - You are using the tools wrong. Figure it out.

Employees now have to work longer hours or risk getting fired.

Company does layoffs under the guise of "we replaced workers with AI" and the stock market rewards them for it.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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For context, this is the whole list of metrics measured by their Eye of Sauron tool, Viva Insights – it seems to be split between Outlook, Teams, Office, and Copilot data. The Outlook and Teams stuff seems to relate to time spent on their individual platforms, but the Copilot-by-app stuff is hilarious.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/viva/insights/advanced/ref...

I look forward to the equivalent of a mouse jiggler.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more nuanced than that. Microsoft is desperate for growth in a growth challenged macro, and Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth. That's one part of the AI slop shovel. The second part is institutions that are desperate to cut labor costs or find other efficiency gains to maintain historical financial performance targets during ZIRP that are sim…

> Nadella has guided valuations and stock targets that are simply unobtainable without this growth I read a couple of articles and he seems to have been completely suckered in by the damn thing from https://archive.is/oWbZB#selection-2387.572-2401.668 > Copilot consumes Nadella’s life outside the office as well. He likes podcasts, but instead of listening to them, he loads transcripts into the Copilot app on his iPho…

But if real, indicates, that he does take it serious. Eat your own dogfood and all that.

I do not see it as AI girlfriend. I see it as pushing the limits of the technology for productivity.

" Copilot is thankfully very good at triaging his messages"

But .. I would never do that, without also having a human check what important bits don't get through.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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For context, this is the whole list of metrics measured by their Eye of Sauron tool, Viva Insights – it seems to be split between Outlook, Teams, Office, and Copilot data. The Outlook and Teams stuff seems to relate to time spent on their individual platforms, but the Copilot-by-app stuff is hilarious. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/viva/insights/advanced/ref... I look forward to the equivalent of a mouse jiggler.

That tool is quite frankly insane and not allowed in the EU I hope?

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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They’re so desperate to make it work. > “A source that has seen materials related to sales has confirmed that, as of August 2025, Microsoft has around eight million active licensed users of Microsoft 365 Copilot, amounting to a 1.81% conversion rate across the 440 million Microsoft 365 subscribers.” Microsoft 365 Copilot's commercial failure - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45476045 - October 2025

Our org has legal/security requirements around AI. MS is not making themselves available to address these concerns or giving our admins the information that is being asked for.

There are also ever changing, inscrutable licensing schemes, and too many similarly named products. It's impossible to know what to buy or how much it is going to cost.

This is even before you get to the quality of the product itself. I mean, part of the reason people aren't using it because it is hard to buy and use.

Re: Microsoft lets bosses spot teams that are dodging Copilot

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Viva shows aggregate numbers and does not give any details sooo...

...ask Copilot to play a nice game of clue, checkers, tic tac toe, chess or whatever.

Adoption metric accomplished! :)

(That's what you get when you force people who don't want to use AI to use AI.)

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