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Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Yes, trying to parse out whether a name "is American" is the most racist thing, a giant red flag.

Theres a coorelation I hate to tell you

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It's a shame that Canada also decided to shut the door on international students. The point was to ease the housing crisis (understandable) but the knock-on effect is to de-fund universities and surprisingly also public schools, which derive a great deal of revenue by charging international students.

It's colleges they they have been clamping down on, as they were bringing in absolutely massive numbers of mostly Indian students who were coming mainly to work in low-end jobs and get out of India rather than to legitimately study. The number of graduate students being allowed in hasn't changed significantly, and undergraduate university students are also continuing to be brought in at rates similar to pre-pandemic…

I didn’t know this. Thank you for sharing.

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Typically smart people arent limited to specific areas of being smart. That's kind of the definition of being smart is figuring things out. Americans built modern infrastructure with our limited 'average' brains. Should be simple for actual smart people.

>Typically smart people arent limited to specific areas of being smart. That's kind of the definition of being smart is figuring things out. Having worked with everyone over the course of my life from PhDs to construction workers, I'm going to have to hard disagree on this one. Just because someone is gifted in one area, does not mean their intelligence or domain expertise applies everywhere. Domain expertise is a re…

there's a billion people in some countries..and none of them are smart in the vaguely defined field of building infrastructure?

They just happened to all be super smart at coding Java?

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That was the law up until the the Hart Cellar act of the 60's.

I'm asking about things working better when only Europeans were allowed, not the law. You were implying the former with your comment.

there's objective evidence That things were working better when only Europeans were allowed.

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

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Why not just stay and bring their gifts to their own country?

Some of them actually do that. Like when the US expelled Qian Xuesen, the founder of the Jet Propulsion Lab and he went back and built China's ballistic missile and space program. So, yep. It's happened and will continue to happen to different degrees.

this is a great thing nuclear deterrence spread around the world is great because it keeps one country from bullying the rest

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Some of them actually do that. Like when the US expelled Qian Xuesen, the founder of the Jet Propulsion Lab and he went back and built China's ballistic missile and space program. So, yep. It's happened and will continue to happen to different degrees.

this is a great thing nuclear deterrence spread around the world is great because it keeps one country from bullying the rest

I agree with you. We don't even have to imagine: the UK and US were planning preemptive nuclear strikes against the entire Soviet Union before they tested their first nuke.

Operation Dropshot and Unthinkable called for hundreds of nukes and conventional bombs to be dropped on Soviet cities to, "to impose upon Russia the will of the United States and the British Empire."

All in all, I don't even have a dog in the fight, but people like Qian Xuesen won't become retarded if they're expelled from the US. If I remember correctly, something like a third of all top-tier AI researchers are Chinese. If you count all those with an immigration background, they'll be close to 50-70%. They will simply create companies and products that compete and take market share from American companies.

Are Americans - the country that votes out presidents for rising gas prices - willing to make do with a lower standard of living? Because that'd what you'll get when some the world's best innovators are no longer based in your country.

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I'm asking about things working better when only Europeans were allowed, not the law. You were implying the former with your comment.

there's objective evidence That things were working better when only Europeans were allowed. https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

I don't think that website implies what you're thinking. The only significant thing that happened in 1971 is that Nixon suspended the convertibility of the dollar into gold, giving the US leeway to run unlimited deficits, paying for imports with paper.

Now, America wants to reduce its debt and curb industrial powers like the EU, Japan, China, etc. but it doesn't want to give up its exorbitant privilege that got it into the debt whole in the first place.

You can't have it both ways.

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there's objective evidence That things were working better when only Europeans were allowed. https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

I don't think that website implies what you're thinking. The only significant thing that happened in 1971 is that Nixon suspended the convertibility of the dollar into gold, giving the US leeway to run unlimited deficits, paying for imports with paper. Now, America wants to reduce its debt and curb industrial powers like the EU, Japan, China, etc. but it doesn't want to give up its exorbitant privilege that got it in…

Its just data.

It could be a result of numerous causes.

My point still stands.

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this is a great thing nuclear deterrence spread around the world is great because it keeps one country from bullying the rest

I agree with you. We don't even have to imagine: the UK and US were planning preemptive nuclear strikes against the entire Soviet Union before they tested their first nuke. Operation Dropshot and Unthinkable called for hundreds of nukes and conventional bombs to be dropped on Soviet cities to, "to impose upon Russia the will of the United States and the British Empire." All in all, I don't even have a dog in the figh…

> They will simply create companies and products that compete and take market share from American companies.

Trade and innovation benefits all of mankind. A rising tide lifts all ships. Having multiple countries becoming successful instead of the US simply monopolizing talent would benefit the world.

> Glad Qian Xuesen helped China improve their missile innovation.

Nuclear Deterrence should be spread far and wide so no one bad actor can get into power and bully others.

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