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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by LaurensBER »

dimgl wrote: post #138

I'm permabanned on Reddit for saying stuff that the mods didn't like on /r/games on multiple accounts. That website is beyond gone and it's depressing, because it was my favorite site. But the mod situation is seriously out of control. I used to buy Reddit Gold (when that was still a thing) so I found it to be incredibly stupid that this source of revenue was shut off. And yet Reddit still lives on. Somehow.

I have a 14 year old account on Reddit (and it's my second account) and I honestly don't enjoy using the site anymore.

At this point it's a zombie, it might look somewhat like the good old Reddit that we all enjoyed but the light inside has long gone out.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by trilogic »

BoorishBears wrote: post #378
trilogic wrote: post #368

This is has to stop right now as it has gone on long enough. Reddit, Google, ProductHunt, Youtube and friends are continuously using their dirty, unethical even illegal techniques driven by profit. I have experienced all myself and I can confirm that the writer is 100% correct. He forgot to mention though that all this is driven by the same agenda, the same people that want to control the narrative. I Wrote about it…

> Yesterday Huggingface Deleted the account of a talented User @BasedBase which was creative in open weights (threatening the big techs). I looked it up it found a pretty clear reason they'd delete it themselves? https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o0st2o/basedba...

That´s is incorrect, I demonstrated how all that is not true. The models were 100% distill and very powerful. Hard facts

https://vimeo.com/1125658282

https://vimeo.com/1125657672

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o1m9nz/the_mos...

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by swarnie »

eps wrote: post #359
swarnie wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can now just outright hide your profile/history even without NSFW content. Its a really good feature for everyone involved.

Comment and post history is still trivial to find through a basic google query. All that hiding them on Reddit does is pissing other users off because it breaks establish site's norms and expectations.

True, the only option is to not use the site entirely.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by UberFly »

pkphilip wrote: post #340

Reddit has a huge moderation issue. Mods run the place like their fiefdoms with no regard to being fair. There should be a way of flagging reddit users and especially mods if they are seen to have a clear conflict of interest (as is the case with Michael Novati) and Reddit should not allow them to run groups where they are openly harassing their competitors.

As an extreme example of this, the Iran subreddit is 100% run by the Islamic Republic of Iran. Any opinion wavering from official state messaging is moderated out of existence. Reddit seems to happily tolerate this kind of thing across its platform on many levels.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by A_D_E_P_T »

vintermann wrote: post #245
Braxton1980 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Mods can ban anyone for any reason Yes, they can and that's how it's set up. Each community makes their own rules and can choose who participates. It's not Reddit. It's the sub that made the decision and I'm not sure how it would be possible for Reddit the company to deal with sub level rule complaints and appeals.

Reddit does have global rules about deceptive content manipulation (e.g. voting rings, bot farms etc.) If this guy had disclosed his conflict of interest, he would just have been an obsessed crank and even as a moderator, that's his right. But when he didn't, I'd say it was large-scale manipulation, and it's clearly in Reddit's interest to not allow this sort of thing (especially now that they're selling all their da…

> If this guy had disclosed his conflict of interest, he would just have been an obsessed crank and even as a moderator, that's his right.

I'm not sure, as in this case it seems to rise to Defamation + Trade Libel/Commercial Disparagement. So it may go beyond being simply unethical.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by cr3ative »

michaelnovati wrote: post #349

I'm going to focus on the MODERATION ACCUSATION first since that seems to be the main issue. What moderating r/codingbootcamp actually looks like: I don't own the sub - I report to the owner who asked me to help after I'd been one of the most active and helpful contributors. The coding bootcamp industry is absolutely infested with astroturfing. Brand new accounts, manufactured conversations, fake testimonials. It's c…

These accusations could all have been avoided by not moderating a community in which you stand to have a direct reputational gain.

You inserted yourself in to this situation. There is an easy path out of it.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by [deleted] »

fragmede wrote: post #105
phil-martin wrote: post #94

The article was fascinating, but the part I didn't see was... what was the motive? Assuming the article paints an accurate picture of what was going on... why was it going on? Is it solely because he runs a company in the same competitive space?

> And I believe that’s why Michael is doing what he’s doing. He wins when Codesmith loses. Yes.

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by BoorishBears »

trilogic wrote: post #382
BoorishBears wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yesterday Huggingface Deleted the account of a talented User @BasedBase which was creative in open weights (threatening the big techs). I looked it up it found a pretty clear reason they'd delete it themselves? https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o0st2o/basedba...

That´s is incorrect, I demonstrated how all that is not true. The models were 100% distill and very powerful. Hard facts https://vimeo.com/1125658282 https://vimeo.com/1125657672 https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o1m9nz/the_mos...

> Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/LocalLLaMA.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by cr3ative »

michaelnovati wrote: post #208
baobun wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> someone mind actually giving a detailed history of the timeline outside of the two main parties? You have that in TFA? Author is an outsider to the drama.

The author talked to numerous Codesmith staff and their cherry picked information provided for the article. I got no request for comment, no interviews, sitting on a treasure trove of my own documents the guy should look at. So yeah. I would love an actually neutral party to put together a timeline after talking to both sides fairly.

This expectation that someone should approach you for comment (and the suggestion that the fact they haven’t matters for neutrality) is misguided.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by BoredPositron »

trilogic wrote: post #382
BoorishBears wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yesterday Huggingface Deleted the account of a talented User @BasedBase which was creative in open weights (threatening the big techs). I looked it up it found a pretty clear reason they'd delete it themselves? https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o0st2o/basedba...

That´s is incorrect, I demonstrated how all that is not true. The models were 100% distill and very powerful. Hard facts https://vimeo.com/1125658282 https://vimeo.com/1125657672 https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o1m9nz/the_mos...

The facts are not very hard...
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