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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Reddit has a moderation problem, and it's a big one. They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform: https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-invites-c... Personally I believe I've seen more people in the past few years wish a politically motivated death on somebody else via Reddit, than I have anywhere else…

Moderation on Reddit has been questionable for a long time and its killing the site. To give some examples:

- /r/energy used to ban everyone in favour of nuclear energy

- If you post on /r/conservative you can expect to receive a bunch of bans from unrelated (popular) subs. Doesn't matter what you posted, being associated with that subs "taints" your account enough for some moderators.

- /r/UnitedKingdom banned me for critizing a government welfare program

- /r/assassinscreed banned me for critizing a character in their latest game

For me it makes sense that the smaller subreddits should have the freedom to moderate as they want but the larger reddits should aim to at allow opposing viewpoints to prevent echo chambers from forming. Moderation should be focused on quality, not on viewpoints. Obviously it goes without saying that threats of violence and celebration of murder have no place on any platform.

The irony is that all this censoring just creates a backlash and further polarisation. If you are only allowed to discuss certain subjects on a "left" space you both create the illusion that the left only cares about a subset of topics and by banning people you create resentment that drives them towards (more welcoming) extreme spaces.

There's many factors that form the political preferences and opinions of the younger generation but it would not suprise me if for a subset (young college educated males?) of them Reddit heavily contributes towards increased polarisation.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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The AI moderation tools are trained on the Reddit data that is actively being sabotaged by a competitor. If an AI were to take up moderation now, mentioning this specific bootcamp would probably get you warned or banned because of how bad it is according to the training data. AI is as biased as humans are, perhaps even more so because it lacks actual reasoning capabilities.

> [AI] lacks actual reasoning capabilities. Evals are showing reasoning (by which I mean multi-step problem solving, planning, etc) is improving over time in LLMs. We don't have to agree on metaphysics to see this; I'm referring to the measurable end result. Why? Some combination of longer context windows, better architectures, hybrid systems, and so on. There is more research about how and where reasoning happens (i…

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I suspect this is true for almost every somewhat relevant subreddit. Everything has been captured, someone has taken control of the politburo and is defining the message. I've been using the site since 2008 and within the last couple of years it feels like you cannot post anything unless you know someone.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I'm sorry, what does anything there have to do with any of the claims people in this thread are asking you to back up? I don't see anything there that adds anything to the story except solidifying the picture of you as an obsessive stalker. It certainly doesn't help your case. In case I overlooked some key detail, please point it out.

We're getting sent around in circles, he has nothing.

I commented on the moderation stuff only for now, https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=45524707&goto=item%3Fi...

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Hi. I don't run a bootcamp. I recommended people go to Codesmith too and there's a lot more to this story. It's missing half the context.

Bud, your LinkedIn of you and your wife say you are founders of a bootcamp.

Where does it say that?

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Many people in this forum mistakenly think that violence isn’t a historically efficient way to solve political problems.

Well at least we can all agree violence is efficient way to create political problems

Remind me again how the American slaves were freed?

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I've seen users with NSFW profiles leaving (relatively more) inane comments and their profile is private, so their posts and comments are not shown. I dread the day we can no longer evaluate users behind the comments.

You can now just outright hide your profile/history even without NSFW content. Its a really good feature for everyone involved.

Comment and post history is still trivial to find through a basic google query.

All that hiding them on Reddit does is pissing other users off because it breaks establish site's norms and expectations.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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It's fine to participate in the thread and present your version of events, but we need you to observe the guidelines, which ask us to avoid fulmination and using capitalisation for emphasis. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Thanks for letting me know that, I didn't know
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