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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by dostick »

neilv wrote: post #84

I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Not cool you calling users “peasants”, they can’t do anything. Have you posted on Reddit, like, with actual personal opinion? You will quickly find out that it’s a moderator’s walled garden of opinions and your posts removed without explanation and notification. and complaining does not do anything.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by lurk2 »

shoobiedoo wrote: post #210
UltraSane wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was banned from /r/comics for saying a comic wasn't funny. Hacker news doesn't ban anyone for such stupid reasons.

I was banned from /r/sourdough for asking a question about rye flour, because someone dug into my post history and saw that I had posted a few times on the Catholicism subreddit. Someone's first instinct when reading a completely benign, neutral question was to see if I was on this or that "team".

There used to be bots that would do this automatically, but they seem to have fallen out of favor due to the high rate of false-positives (user from Subreddit A posts in Subreddit B and gets automatically banned by the automoderator on Subreddit A).

They implemented a change recently where users can make their profiles private which seemed like a cool idea to prevent this sort of thing, but in practice it is used almost exclusively by bad actors. Some users suggested the change was made to facilitate government intelligence agencies running influence campaigns on the platform.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by UltraSane »

shoobiedoo wrote: post #210
UltraSane wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was banned from /r/comics for saying a comic wasn't funny. Hacker news doesn't ban anyone for such stupid reasons.

I was banned from /r/sourdough for asking a question about rye flour, because someone dug into my post history and saw that I had posted a few times on the Catholicism subreddit. Someone's first instinct when reading a completely benign, neutral question was to see if I was on this or that "team".

Oh the automatic banning from subs for posting in another sub is particularly annoying. And often they won't even say what sub? This is amazingly lazy because it doesn't take into account if you posted in /r/conservative that Trump is a moron and got banned for it, you will still get banned form dozens of other subs.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by GreyZephyr »

throwaway8902 wrote: post #108
Slow_Hand wrote: post #79

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What's the story there? I'm curious to know how such behavior manifests in Zen Buddhism, of all things.

Many folks end up in r/zen after reading books like “Zen Mind, Beginners Mind” written by Japanese Zen Buddhists. Ewk is obsessed with the Chinese source material, written by Chan (Chinese for Zen) masters, and believes that the Chinese Chan masters were not Buddhist at all. Many people who come to the subreddit are interested in meditation. It is a big focus of Japanese Zen as practiced in the west. It is not partic…

You're missing the bit where he has never studied under a Buddhist master and actively refuses to. Both Chan and Zen are traditions that are characterised by the belief that written works are always flawed and can't contain the actual teachings and if you want to learn you should find someone who already knows.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by [deleted] »

michaelnovati wrote: post #166
sowbug wrote: post #135

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https://www.google.com/search?q=intentional+interference+wit...

Would posting to 20,000 people telling them that I was using multiple Slack aliases to 'steal students' from Codesmith's community - which was entirely and utterly false in every aspect of that statement - count under this definition?

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by safety1st »

neilv wrote: post #84

I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Reddit has a moderation problem, and it's a big one.

They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform: https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-invites-c...

Personally I believe I've seen more people in the past few years wish a politically motivated death on somebody else via Reddit, than I have anywhere else in my life.

Now if it was "just" the incitements to violence, or if it was "just" the libeling of random businesses, that would be one thing. But the fact that BOTH types of illegal speech are becoming a problem at the same time suggests to me that Reddit's failure to moderate is systemic and total.

It is becoming exhausting watching all of these tech companies commit crimes, or enable someone else to do so, and getting off with a slap on the wrist.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by sizzlers »

michaelnovati wrote: post #215
kjs3 wrote: post #150

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Follow the money.

Agreed, try to figure out how I benefit in any way from Codesmith's decline. Not theoretical, but hard facts. I know of THREE people that considered going to Codesmith and went to Formation instead. One of them I tried very hard to convince to go to Codesmith and she instead got a job on her own and then came to Formation. All of this for three customers? It doesn't add up and there are some missing pieces in the sto…

Why did you obsessively stalk and harass people? Very, very weird behavior.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by moosedev »

argomo wrote: post #217
nubinetwork wrote: post #187

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> Reddit should not be considered an authoritative source. Period. I cringe inside every time I search for something, and the first autocomplete is "mysearchterm reddit"

These days, all the results that AREN'T from reddit are AI slop.

And according to TFA, the AI slop results are also from Reddit!

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by nashashmi »

> The powers that be have decided that Reddit is infallible, a reliable set of training data for LLMs, and should be featured fucking everywhere.

This is the line. Remember google bombs? Remember Wikipedia vandalism for company promotion? These were the early search engine hacking. And now we have LLM hacking.

It was only a matter of time. Reddit has become a cesspool.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

dostick wrote: post #221
neilv wrote: post #84

I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Not cool you calling users “peasants”, they can’t do anything. Have you posted on Reddit, like, with actual personal opinion? You will quickly find out that it’s a moderator’s walled garden of opinions and your posts removed without explanation and notification. and complaining does not do anything.

That literally sounds like being a medieval peasant. Or a US tv show host.
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