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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by crummy »

michaelnovati wrote: post #171
4bpp wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your post does not really do much to dispel the negative picture that the opening article paints of you. You say their decline is "predominantly an industry problem". Is this also the case for your own company, Formation? You went on the record comparing Codesmith to a sex cult and accusing it of deceiving and exploiting its students and evidently consider criticising them to be a mission worth years of near-daily de…

I compared the statement 'do this because it changed my life and the life of many others' to the type of language used in cult documentaries on HBO. I stand by that opinion. Codesmith is not a sex cult. I can't believe I'm writing that sentence.

> I compared the statement 'do this because it changed my life and the life of many others' to the type of language used in cult documentaries on HBO

why did you make that comparison?

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by BurningFrog »

cap11235 wrote: post #111
SilverElfin wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A bad actor mod of a popular subreddit can persist for years, visibly, without people managing either to oust the mod, or to take down the sub's influence. This happens because the regular users have no power. I remember seeing some article that said a small number of mods control most of the popular subreddits. Many of them put their own bias into the system by banning users, banning sources, deleting content base…

When the mods of major subs are also mods for over a hundred other subs, you have to doubt how much actual moderating they are actually doing in their holier-than-thou positions.

Now I want to see a soap opera/reality show about the lives of Reddit Oligarchs!

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by raincom »

That's common. A marketing company took over r/mattress in order to get rid of any unfavorable reviews and pump up any bed in box mattress company as long as these companies pay to that market company. For more, https://www.reddit.com/r/MattressMod/comments/1c28g7b/recent...

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by kjs3 »

michaelnovati wrote: post #97
SilverElfin wrote: post #88

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Are you planning to write something up about it? It would be interesting to hear the other side that you’re hinting at. It’s also not clear to me if the person who wrote this article was paid for it or if they’re somehow affiliated with someone involved. It says they’re a “Fractional VP of Content”. I’m curious if you know more.

I might. I have hordes of documents. It's a really sad situation and very sad that he characterized this this way without even talking to me whatsoever.

I have hordes of documents.

Funny enough, one of my attorneys taught me a lesson a long time ago around this. Simplified, she said "only and idiot claims to have lots of documents" to support their action. Sure, it's the easy/lazy way to try and intimidate people with the lowest amount of knowledge about how things work. But anyone with the slightest clue knows 1) talk is cheap, 2) you don't need a lot of docs, you just need the one that matters, and 3) if you claim to have documents, you'll eventually have to produce them, and if you can't, you look like an idiot.

Maybe put another way...don't let your mouth write checks your body can't cash.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by fsckboy »

tortious interference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference

Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when one person intentionally damages someone else's contractual or business relationships with a third party, causing economic harm.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by CSSer »

nebula8804 wrote: post #170
CSSer wrote: post #148

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Friendly reminder that you are on a forum with essentially one benevolent moderator.

Isn't dang a paid employee? If so, incentives are different. Its a day job that he could get fired from if he deviates from his main duties. (dang you are pretty decent don't get fired please).

Heh, according to the other guy he could get fired and replaced with AI because of his ego. For the less than subtle, I wasn't implying that it was good or bad. I was just pointing out the irony of criticizing centralized moderation on a site with centralized moderation.

As for whether or not pay makes a difference, I think you probably have a point, but I'm sure there's still wiggle room there.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by nubinetwork »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #3

Reddit should not be considered an authoritative source. Period. At this point it's the most astroturfed place on the internet. Accounts are bought and sold like cheap commodities. It's inherently unreliable. That said, in this instance Codesmith actually has an unusually strong defamation case. That Reddit mod is not anonymous, and has made solid claims (about nepotism with fabricated details, accusations of resume…

> Reddit should not be considered an authoritative source. Period.

I cringe inside every time I search for something, and the first autocomplete is "mysearchterm reddit"

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by 4bpp »

michaelnovati wrote: post #171
4bpp wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your post does not really do much to dispel the negative picture that the opening article paints of you. You say their decline is "predominantly an industry problem". Is this also the case for your own company, Formation? You went on the record comparing Codesmith to a sex cult and accusing it of deceiving and exploiting its students and evidently consider criticising them to be a mission worth years of near-daily de…

I compared the statement 'do this because it changed my life and the life of many others' to the type of language used in cult documentaries on HBO. I stand by that opinion. Codesmith is not a sex cult. I can't believe I'm writing that sentence.

There were any number of less pejorative comparisons you could have made if that was all you wanted to say. I regularly see grandiose claims of life-changing benefits on everything ranging from mildly pointless and overpriced meditation retreats down to Toastmasters, and yet you chose the one entity whose main claim to publicity were things that got its leader-guru sentenced to 120 years in a max security prison.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by ryanmerket »

michaelnovati wrote: post #95
malfist wrote: post #68

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> RE: CODESMITH. For starters as an example, Codesmith's website, email, and entire AWS account was down for 3 weeks because they got locked out from not updating their credit card and then losing the root password and their 2-factor was a phone number. This is unacceptable. Everything I can find online, including your post on reddit about the outage, says the outage was for 4 days. Not 3 weeks. I'll also note that y…

It was 3 weeks.

do you think maybe they could have kept it up if they didn't layoff 80% of their staff because of your modding? reddit is essentially google results at this point, don't act coy.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by [deleted] »

CSSer wrote: post #186
nebula8804 wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't dang a paid employee? If so, incentives are different. Its a day job that he could get fired from if he deviates from his main duties. (dang you are pretty decent don't get fired please).

Heh, according to the other guy he could get fired and replaced with AI because of his ego. For the less than subtle, I wasn't implying that it was good or bad. I was just pointing out the irony of criticizing centralized moderation on a site with centralized moderation. As for whether or not pay makes a difference, I think you probably have a point, but I'm sure there's still wiggle room there.

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