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Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Huge win for US high school and college students. Not so good for bloated college administrations.

Zero sum ass mentality. Top performing international students are likely to start companies and create jobs which is great for US high school and college students.

Sorry I don't believe you.

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I don’t know if this was one of the intended outcomes, but this will probably cause some struggling college and universities to shut down.

International students raise quite a lot of money for higher-ed institutions because they pay full price without financial aid. The loss of that income is going to make a bad situation for higher-ed budgets much worse. Unless you are Harvard or Stanford (or a few other universities that are endowments with schools attached), you’re probably already in a budget crunch or eating into your endowment.

A side note, one of the founders of the college I went to has been convinced that higher-ed needs an entirely new business model in order to survive, and is founding a new school called Greenway (https://www.greenwayinstitute.org) that is trying to blend internships and co-op programs into an engineering education.

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The flow of smart and talented people to the United States has historically been incredibly beneficial for the latter. EDIT: further reading here: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/05/28/demand-f...

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Student enrollment in the US is declining and the big problem for colleges the past few years has been a worry about not having enough students. So it's not clear why US students were struggling to get a college spot. And if you mean them getting spots in the more prestigious institutions, well, it's not clear whether that will even happen (the few thousand international students admitted to the top universities are…

The "best talent" is a major scam. International students/alumni did not make these universities the best in the world or create that prestige.

Look at any tier 1 research university in USA and I’ll find you distinguished professors who were once international students at US universities.

Go look at a current list of people at Princeton’s IAS and count how many are former international students.

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What about the first US child from a family of immigrants?

What about them? Competent domestic students are not being crowded out by international students. Competent domestic workers are not being crowded out by immigrants. The opposite is happening, immigrants create new opportunities for natives out of thin air. That doesnt mean that natives dont, they both do.

Was just curious how you thought they ranked compared to the others since you had an opinion

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Perhaps they should tighten their belts and reduce administrative bloat. It’s not as if American society hadn’t collectively called for this for decades while tuition has risen astronomically.

If I’ve learned one thing from studying economics it’s that supply equals demand. If I’ve learned another it’s that prices never go down

Can you explain in this context? Because prices do go down if supply exceed demand.

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So more spots for Americans? Doesn’t necessarily seem like a bad thing to me.

You're assuming that there weren't enough spots for Americans and that they were getting denied due to foreigners. That's not true. For Americans who want a college education and don't get one is mostly because of the cost of education, which foreign students subsidize. This is a classic case of shooing yourself in the foot only because of a fear of the foreigner.

I thought colleges only had a limited number of slots to accept students each year. Seems like US citizens would be competing with foreign students in that case.

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The loss of foreign students is already having an impact on the Boston rental market, with thousands of fewer students coming to the city this year: “I’ve been doing real estate and technology for 30 years. I’ve never seen anything like this,” Demetrios Salpoglou, CEO of Boston Pads, told Boston.com. “It’s very acute. It’s not impacting all neighborhoods … it’s really proximity to a lot of universities that have a he…

I hope a similar thing is happening in Seattle's U-district. Housing costs are by far the largest line item expense for a student. Actual tuition/books is pretty affordable [1] [1] https://admit.washington.edu/costs/coa/

Not familiar with Seattle U-distict, is it rental market? Because I hope foreign students are not impacting single family house prices.

When I was grad student rent was indeed 50% of my stipend. Tuition was covered as part of research grants. Only way to reduce expenses was to get roommates.

Having said that, mortgage is also 50% of our household income now. American dream is expensive...

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What about them? Competent domestic students are not being crowded out by international students. Competent domestic workers are not being crowded out by immigrants. The opposite is happening, immigrants create new opportunities for natives out of thin air. That doesnt mean that natives dont, they both do.

Was just curious how you thought they ranked compared to the others since you had an opinion

An interesting thought. I think parents who work to instill an entrepreneurial mindset into their children are more likely to end up with entrepreneurial minded children. Whether immigrants do that Im not sure. Maybe they want their kids to have an easier/simpler life than they did
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