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Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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99% of stats are made up

But personal experience is not. I went to college and was friends with the foreign students. They were average.

You must've been pretty busy hanging out with a statistically significant quantity of all of them.

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#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of stats are made up

But personal experience is not. I went to college and was friends with the foreign students. They were average.

We had 'Asian road chaos' every fall where the rich ones would show up with their new Bugattis (edit: Maseratis) having never learned how to drive the thing and much less on the open American roads where you can really let the accelerator loose. They would cause endless crashes.

One or two of poor ones would end up committing suicide in the spring when they flunked out and had spent their entire little farming family's fortune back in some austere rice farming village.

It was quite the sight to see. I want to say they were fairly normal in intelligence, relatively, but the set of incentives for them to perform were wildly different.

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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post #18

So more spots for Americans? Doesn’t necessarily seem like a bad thing to me.

You're assuming that there weren't enough spots for Americans and that they were getting denied due to foreigners. That's not true. For Americans who want a college education and don't get one is mostly because of the cost of education, which foreign students subsidize. This is a classic case of shooing yourself in the foot only because of a fear of the foreigner.

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Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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All those students, along with their talent and money and connections went _somewhere_ so that’s a shame for USA.

Huge win for US high school and college students. Not so good for bloated college administrations.

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post #7
post #2

All those students, along with their talent and money and connections went _somewhere_ so that’s a shame for USA.

99% of those students were not any more talented than the average US citizen

You have not met many average US citizens if you really think that is the case

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of stats are made up

But personal experience is not. I went to college and was friends with the foreign students. They were average.

Thats the very definition of “anecdata”. (Anecdotes you mistake for representative data)

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#28
post #18

So more spots for Americans? Doesn’t necessarily seem like a bad thing to me.

You're assuming that there weren't enough spots for Americans and that they were getting denied due to foreigners. That's not true. For Americans who want a college education and don't get one is mostly because of the cost of education, which foreign students subsidize. This is a classic case of shooing yourself in the foot only because of a fear of the foreigner.

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Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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It's going to be a rough time for a lot of colleges that have been using foreign students paying full price to fund their operations. Especially now that the incoming college aged population is beginning to shrink and the percentage attending college has peaked, so the domestic population probably won't be able to fill the seats at less competitive colleges.

Perhaps they should tighten their belts and reduce administrative bloat. It’s not as if American society hadn’t collectively called for this for decades while tuition has risen astronomically.

If I’ve learned one thing from studying economics it’s that supply equals demand.

If I’ve learned another it’s that prices never go down

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of those students were not any more talented than the average US citizen

What's your point? That education only belongs to the "talented"? Talented in what way? What good does it do to society that the "non-talented" are not educated? Also, no source for claim.

Not OP but I infer that they're point is US colleges should primarily serve US citizens, not "talented" foreigners
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