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Re: The Faroes

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Hogs are routinely slaughtered by asphyxiation in a room pumped full of co2. By comparison the dolphins are getting off easy.

Switching the gas to nitrogen would result in a relatively peaceful passing by comparison. Shame.

Handling nitrogen is more dangerous than CO2 for the same reason it is more humane for the animals; you don’t notice you’re being asphyxiated. Not that it is impossible or even particularly difficult to handle nitrogen safely, but it would incur a cost (training, equipment, ...), and inevitably result in accidents when these costs are skimped on.

Unless legislation changes, it's simply better business to let the animals suffer.

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>eating pigs and cows is okay, eating horses is not This is the situation in the UK. Some people trace it back to chivalry, where horses were very expensive and mostly owned by the nobility. But I don't know if that is the real reason. Although it turned out that British people have been eating plenty of horse. They just didn't know it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21375594

I think it is because of the popularity of riding, people are used to seeing horses in that role. Not quite pets, but in a relationship to people closer to that of dogs and cats than that of farm animals.

People ride horses in France, so I'm not sure that is it.

Re: The Faroes

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post #99

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Switching the gas to nitrogen would result in a relatively peaceful passing by comparison. Shame.

Handling nitrogen is more dangerous than CO2 for the same reason it is more humane for the animals; you don’t notice you’re being asphyxiated. Not that it is impossible or even particularly difficult to handle nitrogen safely, but it would incur a cost (training, equipment, ...), and inevitably result in accidents when these costs are skimped on. Unless legislation changes, it's simply better business to let the anim…

You dont need pure no2 for pigs. You can mix in a substance that makes it stink to high heavens so it is safer.

Alas the rest is true re costs being higher and legislation changes being required to force an industry shift.

Re: The Faroes

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post #93

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I think it is because of the popularity of riding, people are used to seeing horses in that role. Not quite pets, but in a relationship to people closer to that of dogs and cats than that of farm animals.

People ride horses in France, so I'm not sure that is it.

I know they do, but is it as popular and as much a part of the culture?

Re: The Faroes

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People ride horses in France, so I'm not sure that is it.

I know they do, but is it as popular and as much a part of the culture?

Well the French invented chivalry (=horseman) didn't they? So I would say it was an even stronger part of their culture back then. But I don't know about now.

Re: The Faroes

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post #93

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I think it is because of the popularity of riding, people are used to seeing horses in that role. Not quite pets, but in a relationship to people closer to that of dogs and cats than that of farm animals.

People ride horses in France, so I'm not sure that is it.

Being French, I feel pretty well informed when I say that not a whole lot of French folks want to eat horse meat, and the numbers are dropping over time.

https://www.ouest-france.fr/economie/agroalimentaire/la-vian... and other articles appear to agree with me.

Re: The Faroes

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Traveling to other cultures involves being exposed to seeing things you aren’t accustomed to. In many ways, that is the whole point. I’m not defending the Faroese here (nor casting aspersions on them, either), more just saying that it’s your responsibility to research the customs of the places to which you travel, and to not go if you think you might not like what you see.

It's also fine to say it's cruel as fuck. > "The squealing from the whales was horrible. They were putting hooks on ropes in their blowholes to pull them in and then hacking at them with knives."

I actually don't think it's fine to hear someone mention another culture and immediately butt in to say how disgusting you think their dietary practices are, especially given that our culture engages in factory farming, which is far crueller and more disgusting.

Whenever the Faroe Islands come up, people complain about whaling. Do people complain about factory farms any time (e.g.) France gets mentioned? No. Frankly, even as an opponent of animal agriculture, I find it a bit xenophobic.

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