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Re: Apps SDK

#91

OpenAI launched an App Store in Nov 2023. A 23 month turnaround from major feature launch, to deprecation, to relaunch is a commitment to product longevity that’d put Google to shame.

I found it genuinely impressive how useless their "GPTs" were.

Of course, part of it was due to the fact that the out-of-the-box models became so competent that there was no need for a customized model, especially when customization boiled down to barely more than some kind of custom system prompt and hidden instructions. I get the impression that's the same reason their fine-tuning services never took off either, since it was easier to just load necessary information into the context window of a standard instance.

Edit: In all fairness, this was before most tool use, connectors or MCP. I am at least open to the idea that these might allow for a reasonable value add, but I'm still skeptical.

Re: Apps SDK

#92
post #58

This feels like a fever dream. As a developer everything changes every week. A new model, a new tool, a new sdk, paradigm we have to learn. I'm getting tired of all that shit.

You just point your AI agent at the docs and have it build the integration with your app for you :)

On a more serious note, it remains to be seen if this even sticks / is widely embraced.

Re: Apps SDK

#93
post #64

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Who says you have to learn this? You are free to ignore it if it's overwhelming. I'd much rather see a thriving ecosystem full of competition and innovation than a more stagnant alternative.

With what exactly? They are desperately trying to create a "marketplace" and become gatekeepers on the backs of developers and businesses alike. There's no innovation here.

I guess what’s implied is that developers and businesses would innovate, not OpenAI directly.

Re: Apps SDK

#94

Why does everyone think chat is better UX than traditional interfaces? I get the AI hype, but so many products are not a fit for chat interfaces. Why would I use a chat to do what could be done quicker with a simple and intuitive button/input UX (e.g. Booking or Zillow search/filter)? Chat also has really poor discoverability of what I can actually do with it.

This x100. This is HCI 101. I'm glad I took that class during my master's program. It opened my eyes to a new world.

Re: Apps SDK

#95
post #75

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It's not just as ChatGPT as the interface. It's that Chat with AI will now be the universal interface and every tech company will have their version of it. Everything you want to do will happen in one place. Cards will provide predefined and interactive experience. Over time you'll see entirely dynamic content get generated on the fly. The user experience is going to be one where we've shrunk websites to apps and app…

This has been the pitched playbook for decades. (Metamates!) I'm increasingly convinced its driven by a specific generation of tech entrepreneurs who cut their teeth while reading ca. 1980s science fiction. I could see chat apps becoming dominant in Slack-oriented workplaces. But, like, chatting with an AI to play a song is objectively worse than using Spotify. Dynamically-created music sounds nice until one consider…

Chatting with an AI to play a song whose title you know, sure.

Getting an AI to play "that song that goes hmm hmmm hmmm hmmm ... uh, it was in some commercials when I was a kid" tho

Re: Apps SDK

#96

OpenAI launched an App Store in Nov 2023. A 23 month turnaround from major feature launch, to deprecation, to relaunch is a commitment to product longevity that’d put Google to shame.

I found it genuinely impressive how useless their "GPTs" were. Of course, part of it was due to the fact that the out-of-the-box models became so competent that there was no need for a customized model, especially when customization boiled down to barely more than some kind of custom system prompt and hidden instructions. I get the impression that's the same reason their fine-tuning services never took off either, si…

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Re: Apps SDK

#97
post #32

They're looking like Facebook did with their phone project and later the metaverse - too big for their britches.

Lmfao..you've reminded me of the phone they made with HTC that had a Facebook button .

We've already sorta come full circle with the Meta glasses having a physical button to interact with the Facebook AI

Re: Apps SDK

#98
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just as ChatGPT as the interface. It's that Chat with AI will now be the universal interface and every tech company will have their version of it. Everything you want to do will happen in one place. Cards will provide predefined and interactive experience. Over time you'll see entirely dynamic content get generated on the fly. The user experience is going to be one where we've shrunk websites to apps and app…

This has been the pitched playbook for decades. (Metamates!) I'm increasingly convinced its driven by a specific generation of tech entrepreneurs who cut their teeth while reading ca. 1980s science fiction. I could see chat apps becoming dominant in Slack-oriented workplaces. But, like, chatting with an AI to play a song is objectively worse than using Spotify. Dynamically-created music sounds nice until one consider…

It's because Zuck can't own a pane of glass. He's locked out of the smartphone duopoly.

Everyone wants the next device category. They covet it. Every other company tries to will it into existence.

Re: Apps SDK

#99

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Because it was buggy, known for security holes and the single biggest source of application crashes in all software in the late 90's through early 00's.

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Drank the kool-aid?!? I worked in the eLearning space, I was a prominent user and developer for Flash/Flex content... there was some interesting tooling for sure, I also completely disabled it on my home computers as a result of working with it.

I had a lot of hopes after the Adobe buyout that Flash would morph into something based around ActionScript (ES4) and SVG. That didn't happen. MS's Silverlight/XAML was close, but I wasn't going to even consider it without several cross-platform version releases.

Re: Apps SDK

#100

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Because it was buggy, known for security holes and the single biggest source of application crashes in all software in the late 90's through early 00's.

you missed the "it drained battery like there was no tomorrow" argument.

I never really used it detached from a wall... mostly from work projects.
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