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Re: Apps SDK

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Post by throwacct »

nlarew wrote: post #64
siva7 wrote: post #58

This feels like a fever dream. As a developer everything changes every week. A new model, a new tool, a new sdk, paradigm we have to learn. I'm getting tired of all that shit.

Who says you have to learn this? You are free to ignore it if it's overwhelming. I'd much rather see a thriving ecosystem full of competition and innovation than a more stagnant alternative.

With what exactly? They are desperately trying to create a "marketplace" and become gatekeepers on the backs of developers and businesses alike. There's no innovation here.

Re: Apps SDK

#82

Post by garbawarb »

siva7 wrote: post #58

This feels like a fever dream. As a developer everything changes every week. A new model, a new tool, a new sdk, paradigm we have to learn. I'm getting tired of all that shit.

Just get an LLM to do it for you.

Re: Apps SDK

#83

Post by JumpCrisscross »

asim wrote: post #75
fidotron wrote: post #50

This conception makes sense iff you believe in ChatGPT as the universal user interface of the future. If anything the agentic wave is showing that the chat interfaces are better off hidden behind stricter user interface paradigms.

It's not just as ChatGPT as the interface. It's that Chat with AI will now be the universal interface and every tech company will have their version of it. Everything you want to do will happen in one place. Cards will provide predefined and interactive experience. Over time you'll see entirely dynamic content get generated on the fly. The user experience is going to be one where we've shrunk websites to apps and app…

This has been the pitched playbook for decades. (Metamates!) I'm increasingly convinced its driven by a specific generation of tech entrepreneurs who cut their teeth while reading ca. 1980s science fiction.

I could see chat apps becoming dominant in Slack-oriented workplaces. But, like, chatting with an AI to play a song is objectively worse than using Spotify. Dynamically-created music sounds nice until one considers the social context in which non-filler music is heard.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by mirzap »

Is it just me, or does it seem odd that if you truly believed AGI would be achieved within a few years, you wouldn’t launch an app store for AI apps? I don’t think an app store makes any sense in a post-AGI world.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

OpenAI launched an App Store in Nov 2023. A 23 month turnaround from major feature launch, to deprecation, to relaunch is a commitment to product longevity that’d put Google to shame.

Re: Apps SDK

#86

Post by cube2222 »

fidotron wrote: post #50

This conception makes sense iff you believe in ChatGPT as the universal user interface of the future. If anything the agentic wave is showing that the chat interfaces are better off hidden behind stricter user interface paradigms.

Is it? Honestly, most agents and/or ai apps I interact with that are actually useful present some form of chat-like interface.

I’m not very bullish on people wanting to live in the ChatGPT UI, specifically, but the concept of dynamic apps embedded into a chat-experience I think is a reasonable direction.

I’m mostly curious about if and when we get an open standard for this, similar to MCP.

Re: Apps SDK

#87

Post by fidotron »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #83
asim wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just as ChatGPT as the interface. It's that Chat with AI will now be the universal interface and every tech company will have their version of it. Everything you want to do will happen in one place. Cards will provide predefined and interactive experience. Over time you'll see entirely dynamic content get generated on the fly. The user experience is going to be one where we've shrunk websites to apps and app…

This has been the pitched playbook for decades. (Metamates!) I'm increasingly convinced its driven by a specific generation of tech entrepreneurs who cut their teeth while reading ca. 1980s science fiction. I could see chat apps becoming dominant in Slack-oriented workplaces. But, like, chatting with an AI to play a song is objectively worse than using Spotify. Dynamically-created music sounds nice until one consider…

The thing it reminds me of is those old Silicon Graphics greybeards that were smug about how they were creating tools for people that created wealth when those other system providers "just" created tools for people tracking wealth.

There's a whole bizarre subculture in computing that fails to recognize what it is about computers that people actually find valuable.

Re: Apps SDK

#88

Post by alvis »

siva7 wrote: post #58

This feels like a fever dream. As a developer everything changes every week. A new model, a new tool, a new sdk, paradigm we have to learn. I'm getting tired of all that shit.

The question is, whether having UI in chatgpt a game changer, fundamentally?

Re: Apps SDK

#89

Post by [deleted] »

tantalor wrote: post #38
fny wrote: post #37

It’s remarkable that will inevitably rush to build free apps that only reinforce OpenAI’s moat while cannibilizing their own opportunities.

When the iPhone came out, there were like 6 apps, and no app store. In 2024, iOS App Store generated $1.3T in revenue, 85% of which went to developers.

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Re: Apps SDK

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Post by jampa »

siva7 wrote: post #58

This feels like a fever dream. As a developer everything changes every week. A new model, a new tool, a new sdk, paradigm we have to learn. I'm getting tired of all that shit.

As a JS developer for over 10 years who has seen multiple hype waves, here is my advice: You don't need to ride the first wave. You can wait until technology matures and see if it has staying power.

For example, React and TypeScript were hard to set up initially. I deferred learning them for years until the tooling improved and they were clearly here to stay. Likewise, I'm glad I didn't dive into tech like LangChain and CoffeeScript, which came and went.

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