i feel like with AR glasses and phones and dash cams etc there just isn't going to be a place without ALPR readers going 24/7 soon?
Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
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Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have this 35 Watt laser I scored off aliexpress, it runs off 24V. I wonder...
I did always wonder if the sort of green laser pointer that could light matches would wreck the sensors. The biggest use of these cameras in the UK is in car parks so that predatory parking companies can fine you £60 for going a nano-second over the time you paid for.
> I did always wonder if the sort of green laser pointer that could light matches would wreck the sensors.
It absolutely can.
Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#63I have very mixed feelings about this tech. On one hand there does feel like a deteriorating society, more petty crime, I almost never see police anymore. Surely I have some roses colored glasses from my youth but it felt like growing up and in my 20s you would see cops writing tickets. Lots of street racing during the day on busy streets and just general chaos. Without a doubt education and parenting is a root probl…
> Surely I have some roses colored glasses from my youth but it felt like growing up and in my 20s you would see cops writing tickets.
I do think public sentiment would swing hard against this type of widespread tracking if we could see laws enforced more regularly.
I live in a low crime city, but even I’m growing frustrated with the flagrant violation of basic laws. We take the kids to nearby park where it’s becoming common for maybe 1 in 100 cars to speed 50-60mph down the adjoining road (twice the speed limit). 1 in 100 doesn’t sound like a lot but it means i see it several times during a single visit. They don’t slow down or stop at the crosswalks.
Only 10 years ago, I remember speed patrols on this road once a week. They would nab anyone flagrantly blowing crosswalks or going significantly over the speed limit. It had a huge effect and you rarely saw violations.
Now: Nothing. I was talking to my wife and we couldn’t remember the last time there was an officer doing speed checks on that road, despite the constant problems and being adjacent to the biggest park around.
The basic laws and regulations just don’t seem to matter any more. Even the trails we like to hike where dogs are only allowed on-leash is full of off-leash dogs. There was a time when you risked getting random a ticket if you were caught with an off-leash dog, but now it’s not a possibility anyone even thinks about. The spot checks and ticket writing previously kept everyone honest, but now it’s rare to see a dog on leash. My friend’s dog (on leash) was attacked by someone’s off leash dog recently and they barely wrestled it away. A visiting friend of mine was bitten by an off leash dog while walking, though it was a small dog she could shake off. It’s still all so bizarre to me that any enforcement of the rules seemingly disappeared overnight.
I know it’s nothing relative to the people living in areas where shoplifting is rampant or you have to fear violent crime, but I think the root cause is similar: A complete lack of visible enforcement emboldens people to ignore them. When the problem becomes widespread, public opinion about invasive enforcement and monitoring becomes more welcoming.
Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#64i feel like with AR glasses and phones and dash cams etc there just isn't going to be a place without ALPR readers going 24/7 soon?
I will be surprised if there is not a startup in the coming years that pays you to run a surveillance mining app that shares data as a way to subsidize the cost of the hardware. The surveillance state equivalent of ads
Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Much more densely than nearby larger cities on the map even I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that your town is way richer than these nearby cities and has a way higher ratio of police to the kind of crime police want to solve hence the "scraping the bottom of the barrel" behavior. So much of the policing problem is a result of towns with no real problems hiring a bunch of cops to go after little problems and then…
I get the temptation to attribute the popularity of these systems to lazy police with nothing better to do, but from personal experience there’s more to it. I live in a medium sized residential development about 15 minutes outside Austin. A few years ago we started getting multiple incidents per month of attempted car theft where the thieves would go driveway to driveway checking for unlocked doors. Sometimes the res…
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Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#66I have very mixed feelings about this tech. On one hand there does feel like a deteriorating society, more petty crime, I almost never see police anymore. Surely I have some roses colored glasses from my youth but it felt like growing up and in my 20s you would see cops writing tickets. Lots of street racing during the day on busy streets and just general chaos. Without a doubt education and parenting is a root probl…
> Surely I have some roses colored glasses from my youth but it felt like growing up and in my 20s you would see cops writing tickets. I do think public sentiment would swing hard against this type of widespread tracking if we could see laws enforced more regularly. I live in a low crime city, but even I’m growing frustrated with the flagrant violation of basic laws. We take the kids to nearby park where it’s becomin…
Seems like what you're asking for is speed cameras, which only take photos of speeding vehicles.
Flock cameras take photos of every vehicle, which violates everybody's privacy (and, arguably, the Fourth Amendment).
Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably why they are mounted 4 meters high
I have this 35 Watt laser I scored off aliexpress, it runs off 24V. I wonder...
I would be interested if anyone is prototyping vehicle mounted lidar with machine vision discrimination.
Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Surely I have some roses colored glasses from my youth but it felt like growing up and in my 20s you would see cops writing tickets. I do think public sentiment would swing hard against this type of widespread tracking if we could see laws enforced more regularly. I live in a low crime city, but even I’m growing frustrated with the flagrant violation of basic laws. We take the kids to nearby park where it’s becomin…
Seems like what you're asking for is speed cameras, which only take photos of speeding vehicles. Flock cameras take photos of every vehicle, which violates everybody's privacy (and, arguably, the Fourth Amendment).
Not the parent but I am arguing that a combo of speed and flock style trackers are necessary. Again mixed feelings but I also don’t believe this is in violation of the 4th. Public road out in the public view.
I don’t think it’s the root of the problem but post Covid the things feel less civil in the US.
Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#69I think we need a parallel, citizen-run ALPR network that could e.g. send out warnings when e.g. ICE vehicles drive by. Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander?
Re: Find Nearby Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR)
#70Huh... I live in a small town a ways out of the downtown area, so I thought "they're probably only on the highway where I've seen cameras"... Nope, basically every intersection with a stoplight near me is listed as having four nodes. Much more densely than nearby larger cities on the map even... I don't like that one bit.
> Much more densely than nearby larger cities on the map even I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that your town is way richer than these nearby cities and has a way higher ratio of police to the kind of crime police want to solve hence the "scraping the bottom of the barrel" behavior. So much of the policing problem is a result of towns with no real problems hiring a bunch of cops to go after little problems and then…
Denser and more heavily taxed per-person, yes. Richer? I doubt it.