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Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by protocolture »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #15
protocolture wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I had silicon valley interns reinvent the car from first principles, surely this wont have any consequences"

In fairness, it's good to be willing to try a different approach from first principles. It's very easy to get locked in by your preconceptions about what works, and as a result miss out on better approaches. The thing is, you also have to have the humility to admit that the new approach is not turning out to be better, and uh... Elon doesn't have that to say the least.

I agree to an extent. If the new approach shows some kind of merit, and that merit is not going to destroy one of your primary requirements, go for it. But doing it for no reason doesnt make a lot of sense.

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by jpalawaga »

Maro wrote: post #16

Things I would never do: • buy a car where the doors and not mechanical • buy a car with a huge screen in the middle • drink and drive • do cocaine

That’s funny considering driving any sort of a car is a higher risk activity than cocaine, statistically speaking. So perhaps you should not buy any car at all! ;-)

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by maxbond »

alex43578 wrote: post #29
dreamcompiler wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teslas have half mechanical door releases: If you're inside the vehicle it's easy to open the doors without power--at least the front doors. The mechanical latches in the rear doors are difficult to find. But the mechanical latches are not accessible from the outside, and they should be. That's why I call them half mechanical.

How would an external mechanical release not result in every car equipped with it getting continually broken into? The Kia ignition fiasco was bad enough.

Seems pretty simple, the lock overrides the release, and when the vehicle detects a collision it unlocks the doors.

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by Gigachad »

komali2 wrote: post #2

I just don't understand why people accept the sheer arrogance of the design of Tesla vehicles. I don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear sto…

Cybertruck owners are mentally lacking. That was obvious from the start.

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by lukevp »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #23
grogenaut wrote: post #7

Note, linked article has no details. This sublinked article has some https://www.newsweek.com/3-dead-after-tesla-cybertruck-crash... It's completely unclear to me from this article if they failed to open because of computer control or mechanical damage. The car was on fire, I think, that's not exactly a trivial crash (though the 2nd article a fire chief says it didn't look like heavy damage to cause a fire) And they…

Vastly more ICE cars catch fire every year than Teslas do. They get zero news coverage. But as you say ICE cars are also vastly easier to put out. We train on EV fires to spray them with water for hours because that's what it takes. Easier said than done when you have to shuttle water with tenders as we often do.

Don’t ICE cars mostly catch fire under the hood or the trunk area under the car? Vs. the entire floor of the car being an explosive and very hot fire? Seems quite a bit different. I mean it sucks if a car catches on fire and burns up but if no one dies it’s significantly less of a big deal.

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by numbsafari »

protocolture wrote: post #14
komali2 wrote: post #2

I just don't understand why people accept the sheer arrogance of the design of Tesla vehicles. I don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear sto…

"I had silicon valley interns reinvent the car from first principles, surely this wont have any consequences"

They certainly move fast and break things.

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by [deleted] »

jpalawaga wrote: post #32
Maro wrote: post #16

Things I would never do: • buy a car where the doors and not mechanical • buy a car with a huge screen in the middle • drink and drive • do cocaine

That’s funny considering driving any sort of a car is a higher risk activity than cocaine, statistically speaking. So perhaps you should not buy any car at all! ;-)

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Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by b00ty4breakfast »

jpalawaga wrote: post #32
Maro wrote: post #16

Things I would never do: • buy a car where the doors and not mechanical • buy a car with a huge screen in the middle • drink and drive • do cocaine

That’s funny considering driving any sort of a car is a higher risk activity than cocaine, statistically speaking. So perhaps you should not buy any car at all! ;-)

just think of all the cocaine you could buy with that money!
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