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How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Mhh, what if we let enough food into Gaza so that everyone can survive? Why would Hamas have any reason to steal food then?

Did you know that the population of Gaza has actually increased since the start of the conflict?

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Because it doesn't move the situation any closer to liberation of their people and their homeland. They have been willing to constantly fight, and constantly keep getting killed by an enemy with overwhelming advantages, for their cause for two years now. Why would you assume that being able to escape with their lives is suddenly more important to them?

> They have been willing to constantly fight, and constantly keep getting killed by an enemy

Thats not true at all. Most people in palestine do not want to throw their lives away for nothing. Most of them want peace. Its only Hamas that would apparently prefer to get killed and have gaza be flattened instead of accepting peace.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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These numbers are just false. Even the Hamas numbers are 10x less than this!

What are the numbers then?

440+ according to Wikipedia. Only a lower bound I guess.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip_famine

EDIT: only due to starvation

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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The horror that starvation inflicts on the human mind is beyond comparison. My grandfather experienced this firsthand when he fled from the Japanese invasion, an occupation that stripped civilians of their food supply. He helplessly watched as his parents, relatives, and even his older brother succumbed one by one to hunger. Barely escaping the same fate, he fled the country just before starvation could claim his own…

Starvation may also cause epigenetic and metabolic changes, which persist and are even passed to next generations. In children tissue dystrophy is particular damaging, since their bodies are still developing. Starvation is a really fucking bad thing.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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> It's war initiated by Hamas Takes two to tango. Hamas started the war. Israel has continued it way past where it made sense. (No later than after Sinwar was killed.)

> way past where it made sense. If they don't destroy Hamas now, then a war will happen again in another 10 years. At which point 10s of thousands of palestinians will needlessly die, again. The only resolution to all of this, will happen when Hamas is completely disarmed and out of power. You can criticize how Israel goes about achieving that goal. But that goal is the only one that gets to a real, permanent peace.

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Two numbers on the effectiveness of that strategy: 680.000 and 380.000. The total number of Palestinians murdered, and the number of those who were kids under 5 years old. source: https://arena.org.au/politics-of-counting-gazas-dead/

These numbers are just false. Even the Hamas numbers are 10x less than this!

Who is left in Gaza to count or report all the dead? The people who die of famine?

Official numbers have increased by less than 20.000 in the last year of genocide. Isn't that curious?

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's war initiated by Hamas Takes two to tango. Hamas started the war. Israel has continued it way past where it made sense. (No later than after Sinwar was killed.)

> way past where it made sense. If they don't destroy Hamas now, then a war will happen again in another 10 years. At which point 10s of thousands of palestinians will needlessly die, again. The only resolution to all of this, will happen when Hamas is completely disarmed and out of power. You can criticize how Israel goes about achieving that goal. But that goal is the only one that gets to a real, permanent peace.

It is not possible to destroy an idea with violence. The more palestinians you shoot or starve the stronger Hamas will be when it returns. The only way for Israel to get real, permanent peace is probably removing all the palestinians which is why they are currently engaged in a genocide.
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