Live data from Hacker News

Jane Goodall has died

latimes.com

181–190 of 206 posts

Re: Jane Goodall has died

#181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans are humans, at the end of the day. Especially as someone who grew up at the height of EU open borders, I'm not real bothered which side of an imaginary line on a map someone happened to be born on

[flagged]

europe to here with the ethnicism!

Re: Jane Goodall has died

#182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily! You can be both a kind person, and build a strong defence, knowing how dangerous our species is. Although maybe rare.

But would Jane Goodall have been that person?

I'm guessing just one in a hundred is that person. But maybe not impossible, after all, that'd it'd be someone like her. Did you see what she saw? From the article:

> Her most disturbing studies came in the mid-1970s, when she and her team of field workers began to record a series of savage attacks.

> The incidents grew into what Goodall called the four-year war, a period of brutality carried out by a band of male chimpanzees from a region known as the Kasakela Valley. The marauders beat and slashed to death all the males in a neighboring colony and subjugated the breeding females, essentially annihilating an entire community.

Re: Jane Goodall has died

#183
post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't need to be sustained, the whole point is that eventually when the next generation ages up, the number of old people won't be as high.

However, in the intermediate stage, you are desperately short of working-age people to help support the massive aging population. This isn't a theoretical - most of Western Europe has been in this boat for a long time, and relies heavily on immigration to fill the labour gap (despite however much political posturing about wanting to restrict immigration) If we do this on a global scale, there is nowhere to draw immig…

What's the alternative though? Creating new humans purely to be able to have them work and pay for stuff for other existing humans? That doesn't seem a bit dystopian for you?

The problem I have with this logic is that it seems to assume a binary of the population either staying at least as high as it is or massively reducing. The idea that there's no middle ground where the population goes down slowly rather than massively spiking all at once feels like it needs much more justification rather than just assuming it.

Re: Jane Goodall has died

#184
post #145
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the Snopes: > Some viewers took the video a little too literally, however, and were surprised at Koko's pithy and timely exhortation to heed the perils of global warming. But nothing about the video indicates that Koko can actually entertain, much less communicate to humans, thoughts about environmentalism. Personally I never took it literally. I saw the video and knew right away it was just a marketing stunt, b…

misled

thanks I probably misspell that one a lot

Re: Jane Goodall has died

#185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans are humans, at the end of the day. Especially as someone who grew up at the height of EU open borders, I'm not real bothered which side of an imaginary line on a map someone happened to be born on

[flagged]

If the only argument behind why Europe should exist is that you don't like people who look like the people from Sudan or India, then maybe it shouldn't.

(If you instead want to claim that you're not trying to talk about ethnicity and are instead talking about economies or whatever, consider whether the ancestors you mention drawing those imaginary lines over places like Sudan and India were motivated by their desire to colonize and extract wealth from them at the expense of the local populations, and whether that's more responsible for the economic differences between them and Europe than the lines themselves)

Re: Jane Goodall has died

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans are humans, at the end of the day. Especially as someone who grew up at the height of EU open borders, I'm not real bothered which side of an imaginary line on a map someone happened to be born on

[flagged]

Europe is built on foreign things. What would life in England be like without Tea, Coffee and Curry?

I for one do not welcome an exclusionist Europe

Re: Jane Goodall has died

#187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of evidence to suggest most of her research was fraudulent

I wonder how much of it was just a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans situation

And at least in Hans' case, the general public could instantly verify the result, as opposed to having it interpreted by a biased handler.

Re: Jane Goodall has died

#190
post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

If the only argument behind why Europe should exist is that you don't like people who look like the people from Sudan or India, then maybe it shouldn't. (If you instead want to claim that you're not trying to talk about ethnicity and are instead talking about economies or whatever, consider whether the ancestors you mention drawing those imaginary lines over places like Sudan and India were motivated by their desire…

[flagged]
Post reply on HN