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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by sebastiennight » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:12 PM UTC

mk89 wrote: post #206

justin66 wrote: post #123

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People sometimes forget how bitterly divided Israel was before October 7th, with hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets. The war put some of the infighting on hold for a while, but all the former problems still exist, and the stakes are higher.

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> So I guess USA is now gonna make war against Mexico/Canada, because they are divided?

Don't give them ideas. Once they are finished with Portland, LA and NYC, Canada is just next door

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by jstanley » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:12 PM UTC

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #80

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #19

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I didn't downvote you but I have no idea what you're trying to say.

It's a style of post common in twitter, where you obliquely refer to several things that you personally are familiar with and assume that the reader will understand because they should have basically entirely the same things on their mind that you do.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by nakamoto_damacy » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by slowturtle » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

machina_ex_deus wrote: post #203

starik36 wrote: post #97

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> Israel values the lives of their hostages above all else and will try to rescue them no matter the cost.

Then why did the Israelis violate the ceasefire in March earlier this year, after they refused to move on to the second phase which would've seen the release of more of the hostages? They broke the ceasefire by killing 400 Palestinians in one day, including over 200 children. [0] Conveniently Netanyahu used it as an excuse to get out of a court appearance for his corruption trial the next day.

[0] https://apnews.com/live/latest-updates-israel-launches-new-w...

[1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahus-testimony-in-graft-...

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by dang » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:13 PM UTC

machina_ex_deus wrote: post #137

churchill wrote: post #13

For those out of the loop the actions of the Israeli gov. are not some fringe overreaction. This is what the people want. by their own admission, 48% of Israeli Jews want Palestinians to be ethnically cleansed which would constitute a genocidal act, while 79% believe they should get preferential treatment over Arabs. [0] Both Israeli Arabs & Palestinian Arabs. This is not some, 'oh no! it just happened.' Everyone who…

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> [Palestinians] will raid and murder, rape and destroy

> those savages

Wtf? I already responded to a later comment of yours here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45454043, but this rhetoric is unacceptable on HN and if you continue to post like this we will ban you—the same way we ban accounts that post like this about other groups.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by cogman10 » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:14 PM UTC

mk89 wrote: post #206

justin66 wrote: post #123

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People sometimes forget how bitterly divided Israel was before October 7th, with hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets. The war put some of the infighting on hold for a while, but all the former problems still exist, and the stakes are higher.

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The US was the victim of a terror attack at 9/11. It became the bad guy by invading Afghanistan and Iraq for 20 years using one terrorist attack as the justification.

You could argue Israel's right to strike back on Oct 8th, 15th, 31. That justification has vanished as the onslaught has continued. 2 years later.

Yes, Israel is the bad guy for committing genocide. Being the target of a terrorist attack doesn't give a country the right to wage war on civilians.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by LAC-Tech » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:14 PM UTC

It's amazing to see how support of Israel has started collapsing. Scores of US-aligned nations now recognise Palestine. Even inside their traditional support base in the US, it's on the decline; 50% of Republicans under 50 don't support Israel. At least one republican is calling it a "genocide". MAGA split over Iran.

What's interesting is that I don't see the zionist talking points changing at all. They still hold out hope they can accuse everyone of "anti-semitism" and they'll all get back in line like it's 2020. I think they're holding out hope things can go back to normal, but it will be hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by __loam » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:14 PM UTC

nostrebored wrote: post #83

tdeck wrote: post #52

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World leaders know this, they're pretending not to see it. For example, the Biden administration set specific aid targets for Israel to meet and even acknowledged that they weren't being met by the "deadline" but neglected to impose any consequences. https://www.propublica.org/article/biden-blinken-state-depar... Israelis (including those who use this platform to repeat the same warmed-over genocide denials for the u…

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They're being pushed by world powers to provide aid for civilians that have been caught up in a war zone and who are being systematically starved to death, according to a lot of reputable organizations including Israeli human rights organizations.

If you want to discuss aid to the regime then maybe we can start with the suitcases of money Bibi's government sent Hamas for years because they thought a more extreme group would be easier to control.

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Post by robertoandred » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:16 PM UTC

tsimionescu wrote: post #156

machina_ex_deus wrote: post #137

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> Gaza was given to the Palestinians for free in 2005. That doesn't mean anything. Israel was illegally occupying Gaza before 2005, and has been illegally blockading it since. And every single year for the past 50 years or more, Israel has murdered more Palestinians than the Palestinians have murdered Israelis - most years, at least 2 dead Palestinians for every dead Israeli. Not to mention, Netanyahu has been one of…

And Egypt was occupying it before Israel, and the British and the Ottomans and the Romans.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by Ozzie_osman » Thu, Oct 02, 2025, 7:16 PM UTC

KittenInABox wrote: post #93

Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is currently stealing it all. But I have never seen rampant obesity in Hamas prisoners that the IDF have captured alive? Hamas can't be extorting the Gazan people for those calories, the Gazan people have no money at this point by and large due to the huge swath of des…

> Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is currently stealing it all.

This claim is made by supporters of the war _outside of Israel_ for external consumption. If you look at what the Israeli cabinet, generals and politicians are saying for internal consumption... it's pretty deliberate.