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How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by chimineycricket »

Ray20 wrote: post #134
C6JEsQeQa5fCjE wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it doesn't move the situation any closer to liberation of their people and their homeland. They have been willing to constantly fight, and constantly keep getting killed by an enemy with overwhelming advantages, for their cause for two years now. Why would you assume that being able to escape with their lives is suddenly more important to them?

> doesn't move the situation any closer to liberation of their people and their homeland. From Hamas?

From the people killing them in places where Hamas has no control and building illegal settlements on their land.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by monocasa »

YZF wrote: post #111
arnsholt wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the Rafah crossing is currently controlled by the Israeli army. Egypt can allow all the aid it wants, it’ll still get stopped by the Israelis.

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It is both.

That being said Egypt being complicit doesn't make any of this better.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by [deleted] »

magicalhippo wrote: post #71
dataflow wrote: post #59

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The claim I've heard them make is that the food aid is making it in, but being stolen by Hamas so that it can be resold at markup. How do you convince people that believe this that it isn't true (or is irrelevant)?

> stolen by Hamas And/or the Israel-backed ISIS groups[1][2]. [1]: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sytu2q1mel [2]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu-armi...

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by m-s-y »

KittenInABox wrote: post #93

Question: There is a repeated claim that more calories have been provided to the Gaza people than several other human crisis scenarios, but that Hamas is currently stealing it all. But I have never seen rampant obesity in Hamas prisoners that the IDF have captured alive? Hamas can't be extorting the Gazan people for those calories, the Gazan people have no money at this point by and large due to the huge swath of des…

the article also states that the US has looked into the reports of Hamas stealing the aid and found that none of the aid appears to have been stolen by anyone.

given the current US administration and their hard-on for Israel, I can't imagine this is a faked report. if it were faked, it'd be to agree with Israel

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by BriggyDwiggs42 »

machina_ex_deus wrote: post #137
churchill wrote: post #13

For those out of the loop the actions of the Israeli gov. are not some fringe overreaction. This is what the people want. by their own admission, 48% of Israeli Jews want Palestinians to be ethnically cleansed which would constitute a genocidal act, while 79% believe they should get preferential treatment over Arabs. [0] Both Israeli Arabs & Palestinian Arabs. This is not some, 'oh no! it just happened.' Everyone who…

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I was gonna argue with the parent comment but instead here you are doing your best to prove their point. In your mind there’s one Palestinian person, multiplied by a couple million, and you hate that person. It’s the same as any racism.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by slowturtle »

UK surgeon Nick Maynard, a volunteer at Nasser Hospital, tells Good Morning Britain that he and other doctors tried to bring baby formula into Gaza and the Israelis confiscated it from them with no justification. [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ipJEROtHOs

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by boxed »

jonquark wrote: post #11
weregiraffe wrote: post #5

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Only Hamas could do that but this article is pointing out that all of Gaza (not just Hamas members) are being starved.

In fact, Hamas are almost certainly not being starved at all. They have the guns, and they will make sure they get food. They have shown again and again they are quite willing to shoot Palestinian civilians for just being slightly inconvenient to them. They certainly won't mind shooting some for food.

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Post by dlubarov »

mef51 wrote: post #91

Israel blocks the entry of Plumpy Nut into Gaza, a peanut-butter like paste meant for treating severe acute malnutrition. They say it is a luxury item Hamas might steal.[1] The amount of evidence Israel is committing genocide is embarrassing. [1] https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1971582137947295831

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by frank_nitti »

justin66 wrote: post #123
Animats wrote: post #115

“Israel has built the most efficient starvation machine you can imagine.” There's political opposition to this within Israel. Here's what happened to an elected member of the Knesset who spoke out against the cruelty in Gaza.[1] He was forcibly removed from the podium of the Knesset. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzDxV7jnAos

People sometimes forget how bitterly divided Israel was before October 7th, with hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets. The war put some of the infighting on hold for a while, but all the former problems still exist, and the stakes are higher.

Even Charlie Kirk, of all people, was talking about this (ignore the clickbait video title): https://youtu.be/3wUq3t9f6ug?si=nV_NukcsjHZgj0MT

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by boxed »

rowanseymour wrote: post #28
boxed wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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"Both the definition and charge of ethnic cleansing is often disputed, with some researchers including and others excluding coercive assimilation or mass killings as a means of depopulating an area of a particular group, or calling it a euphemism for genocide or cultural genocide." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

Notice the lack of "moving" in your quote.

I'm not saying the moving isn't wrong, but it's a LONG way from gas chambers.

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