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How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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even if it was true, and the charities say it is not, would that make it OK to starve the people of Gaza?

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If that's true, they are doing their best to ensure it's not working. Maybe Israel should airlift it over populated areas.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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For reference: While the gas chambers were are the prominent way of death during the Holocaust, the majority of victims died of starvation. Starvation death looks like succumbing to a random sickness (the body is just too weak for a functional immune response), and thus saves the perpetrator from the usual psychological consequences of direct murder. This methodology was agreed on during the Wannsee conference in 194…

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Hard to actually believe. What, Hamas steals all the calories and consumes the calories themselves? They'd be bloated.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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There is massive narrative deception from Israel... wake up world: >“There is no famine in Gaza. Period,” the [Israeli] official said, adding that “Israel and the IDF are trying to strengthen the humanitarian situation in Gaza with partners.” If you want to see what Netanyaho looks like when he's covering things up [lying] just watch the 2024 documentary The Bibi Files — about his corruption charges (which features o…

World leaders know this, they're pretending not to see it. For example, the Biden administration set specific aid targets for Israel to meet and even acknowledged that they weren't being met by the "deadline" but neglected to impose any consequences. https://www.propublica.org/article/biden-blinken-state-depar... Israelis (including those who use this platform to repeat the same warmed-over genocide denials for the u…

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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The claim I've heard them make is that the food aid is making it in, but being stolen by Hamas so that it can be resold at markup. How do you convince people that believe this that it isn't true (or is irrelevant)?

Would reporting from the NYT citing Israeli military officials saying that this didn't happen on any notable scale help convince people? No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un...

The UN's own data (https://app.un2720.org/tracking) shows 86,531 pallets were intercepted, while only 26,772 pallets arrived at their intended destination.

We don't know many of the interceptions Hamas was behind, but that isn't really important.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Would reporting from the NYT citing Israeli military officials saying that this didn't happen on any notable scale help convince people? No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un...

The UN's own data ( https://app.un2720.org/tracking ) shows 86,531 pallets were intercepted, while only 26,772 pallets arrived at their intended destination. We don't know many of the interceptions Hamas was behind, but that isn't really important.

> We don't know much many of the interceptions Hamas was behind, but that isn't really important.

Sure it is when Israel is funding other groups that are known for stealing aid. It changes the entire narrative.

Israel backs an anti-Hamas armed group known for looting aid in Gaza. Here’s what we know

https://apnews.com/article/gaza-armed-groups-hamas-israel-lo...

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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World leaders know this, they're pretending not to see it. For example, the Biden administration set specific aid targets for Israel to meet and even acknowledged that they weren't being met by the "deadline" but neglected to impose any consequences. https://www.propublica.org/article/biden-blinken-state-depar... Israelis (including those who use this platform to repeat the same warmed-over genocide denials for the u…

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Perhaps you could spell out what you're talking about?

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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The Trump peace plan calls for a resumption of aid contingent on the Palestinians accepting the deal. Please understand that this is a war crime. You can not use starvation of civilians as a weapon or as leverage against combatants.

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How do you mean target? They don't seem to target the people. Seems like they make whatever calories hard to get.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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The Trump peace plan calls for a resumption of aid contingent on the Palestinians accepting the deal. Please understand that this is a war crime. You can not use starvation of civilians as a weapon or as leverage against combatants.

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You're posting the same comment, each time linking to a source on WWII, but never linking to evidence of Israeli's policy or confirmation from any third-party attesting to it.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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There is simply no excuse for blocking the entry of food into a region wholesale. For that alone they should, at the very least, be an outcast in the international community. But here we are.

Honest question, why can it not just go through the 14 km border with Egypt? Is Egypt also blocking access for food and aid?

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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What I find the most jarring about this on a day-to-day being in tech circles is how some of the smartest people I know are not only unwilling to call out what's happening, they're unwilling to acknowledge it to begin with, and some like the triangle man and Collison brothers even support it. The more time I spend in tech the more I realize there's a deep moral rot here covered up by noveau-rich wealth

Where did the idea that being smart meant being moral come from? Why would anyone assume that people in tech are "good"? A lot of (I would say most) people go into tech to make money. All the people you expect to say something won't because doing so could jeopardize the amount of money they make. The same goes with celebrities, academics, politicians, etc. If you are someone who makes a lot of money, and you speak ne…

Because tech people spent probably 5 years signalling their moral goodness about a wide array of topics, indeed proclaiming these the most important political topics. IT was and still is insufferable.
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