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How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by magicalhippo »

dataflow wrote: post #59
rubzah wrote: post #4

There is simply no excuse for blocking the entry of food into a region wholesale. For that alone they should, at the very least, be an outcast in the international community. But here we are.

The claim I've heard them make is that the food aid is making it in, but being stolen by Hamas so that it can be resold at markup. How do you convince people that believe this that it isn't true (or is irrelevant)?

> stolen by Hamas

And/or the Israel-backed ISIS groups[1][2].

[1]: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sytu2q1mel

[2]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu-armi...

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

jordanb wrote: post #23

The Trump peace plan calls for a resumption of aid contingent on the Palestinians accepting the deal. Please understand that this is a war crime. You can not use starvation of civilians as a weapon or as leverage against combatants.

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by abdulhaq »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #69
abdulhaq wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

even if it was true, and the charities say it is not, would that make it OK to starve the people of Gaza?

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Ethnic cleansing is deeply wrong, starvation as a tactic of war is horribly wrong, we all know what's happening, please have some respect for peoples' intelligence.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by tguvot »

ndiddy wrote: post #68
dataflow wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The claim I've heard them make is that the food aid is making it in, but being stolen by Hamas so that it can be resold at markup. How do you convince people that believe this that it isn't true (or is irrelevant)?

If that was true, wouldn’t the best course of action be to let as much aid as possible into Gaza to flood the market rather than restricting the flow (therefore increasing prices) like Israel has been doing?

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Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by hebelehubele »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #69
abdulhaq wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

even if it was true, and the charities say it is not, would that make it OK to starve the people of Gaza?

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Distribution points are hours of walking away from the majority of Gazans. Then you have armed forces shooting people seeking food.

From the article: https://imgur.com/a/rqW5m3w

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by tguvot »

nashashmi wrote: post #70
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Two years later after several ceasefires have been broken, only one chooses to continue the famine and the war.

yes. "Hamas military leader in Gaza objects to ceasefire plan, BBC understands"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c708v2q5r09o

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by monocasa »

dataflow wrote: post #59
rubzah wrote: post #4

There is simply no excuse for blocking the entry of food into a region wholesale. For that alone they should, at the very least, be an outcast in the international community. But here we are.

The claim I've heard them make is that the food aid is making it in, but being stolen by Hamas so that it can be resold at markup. How do you convince people that believe this that it isn't true (or is irrelevant)?

Would reporting from the NYT citing Israeli military officials saying that this didn't happen on any notable scale help convince people?

No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un...

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #69
abdulhaq wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

even if it was true, and the charities say it is not, would that make it OK to starve the people of Gaza?

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The Allied occupying powers tried as hard as they could to get food into Germany. Israel is intentionally blocking food from getting onto Gaza. There's a massive difference.

> War sucks.

That's an awfully glib way of justifying deliberately starving a civilian population. Saying "war sucks" doesn't make it okay to commit war crimes.

Re: How Israeli actions caused famine in Gaza, visualized

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Post by colpabar »

Amir_A wrote: post #57

What I find the most jarring about this on a day-to-day being in tech circles is how some of the smartest people I know are not only unwilling to call out what's happening, they're unwilling to acknowledge it to begin with, and some like the triangle man and Collison brothers even support it. The more time I spend in tech the more I realize there's a deep moral rot here covered up by noveau-rich wealth

Where did the idea that being smart meant being moral come from? Why would anyone assume that people in tech are "good"? A lot of (I would say most) people go into tech to make money. All the people you expect to say something won't because doing so could jeopardize the amount of money they make. The same goes with celebrities, academics, politicians, etc. If you are someone who makes a lot of money, and you speak negatively about america's greatest ally, you will probably make less money as a direct result.
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