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UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tweets - prison Assaulting and trying to stab a man burning a Quran - Suspended sentence https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xr12yx5l4o watch the video and tell me this man should be A) not in prison and B) in the country after said prison sentence
Any young man would probably get an attempted murder charge for that. Very incendiary ruling; sort of thing that could start a riot.
Policing by consent admits an arbitrage whereby one simply refuses
Anarchotyranny
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#173As well as the Estonia eID system works (aside from that time it got hacked[0] and that other time they leaked all the photos[1]) and how well a digital (non-government) system works in Scandinavia… I have to say… As a Dual British/Swedish Citizen, I really do not trust the UK government. They have proven over and over and over, that at every opportunity presented they will increase their own authority. I don’t belie…
>I don’t believe I have personally witnessed any other advanced economy that so ardently marches towards authoritarianism.
Have you ever been to Asia or South America or really the rest of the world? A digital ID is a pretty mundane. If you're complaining about "authoritarianism", if the government really wants to get you they will get you. Place more faith or care in the plurality of your political systems instead.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
UK already has a social credit system with our credit score, we even need to pay to see it.
That's a financial score based on previous financial transactions and contracts. It's a bit of a stretch to call it social.
Well, in the U.S. at least it literally determines where you are allowed to live. I don't know how you couldn't call it a social credit system.
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#175As well as the Estonia eID system works (aside from that time it got hacked[0] and that other time they leaked all the photos[1]) and how well a digital (non-government) system works in Scandinavia… I have to say… As a Dual British/Swedish Citizen, I really do not trust the UK government. They have proven over and over and over, that at every opportunity presented they will increase their own authority. I don’t belie…
>> I don’t believe I have personally witnessed any other advanced economy that so ardently marches towards authoritarianism.
Come on. You really think the UK has moved further towards authoritarianism in recent years than the US?
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Public Order Act 1986 "insulting words or behavior that cause distress to others" Malicious Communications Act 1988 (Section 1): "Outlaws sending messages, electronic or otherwise, with the intent to cause distress, or anxiety" Communications Act 2003, Online Safety Act 2023, hate speech, terrorist legislation all made these many orders of magnitude worse in many ways.
You cannot be arrested for sending “any message online that anyone could find insulting or offensive”. That’s not what the law says. You can be arrested for spreading hate speech, inciting violence, sending illegal media or harassment online. All of the arrests mentioned in this thread in relation to these acts have been campaigns of intimidation, harassment and calls to violence, not simply saying something “insulti…
The police are overreaching massively. They are making 30 arrests a day and "interview" many more.
We do not rely on the ECHR to protect our free speech. If we did the UK would no longer be a democracy. I'm offended by the suggestion that our democracy and society is so fragile that without them we would have no rights. Expect a police raid very soon.
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#177Cyber risks notwithstanding (they concern me greatly), I still think the Gov is better placed than Private sector to guarantee citizens privacy and security (at that level). Why? The Gov is better placed to be the ultimate non-profit org: can fund, can legislate, can draw expertise, is non-profit etc.
Treat the digital ID as critical national infrastructure, or else it'll fail massively.
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#178I don't trust the UK government either. But I'm both British and Australian and I see the need for a centralised identity service. Because the alternative is that we provide our passport to every online service that 'needs' to verify our identity. Then – lo, would you believe it! – they get hacked, and now all of our data is in the wild again . I'd much rather the government, who already know everything about me beca…
Your mistake is assuming good faith on behalf of the government who arrests thousands of people for social media posts. Beyond faith, they are incredibly incompetent and this data will be stolen.
They didn’t arrest anyone for “making social media posts”. The police (not the government) arrested people due to the content in the posts breaking an existing law. Big difference.
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#179I don't trust the UK government either. But I'm both British and Australian and I see the need for a centralised identity service. Because the alternative is that we provide our passport to every online service that 'needs' to verify our identity. Then – lo, would you believe it! – they get hacked, and now all of our data is in the wild again . I'd much rather the government, who already know everything about me beca…
> Because the alternative is that we provide our passport to every online service that 'needs' to verify our identity. I really really really don't want to 'verify my identity' everywhere. Why the F is that normalised these days?? If I buy something online my payment and delivery address is all they should need. And all they've had to have for the last 30 years > I'd much rather the government, who already know every…
Airlines and airline middle-men organisations are the worst offenders and centralised identification is not going to help there. Having flied with a few airlines, your details are out there. In the UK, national and travel passport are the same.
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#180As a Brazilian, it's pretty weird when I see that countries like UK or the U.S don't have national IDs. Here that would be seen as a completely insane.
Has (everyone) having an ID stop crime?