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UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Post by AJRF »

The labour government can not be challenged in any serious way until the next election in 4 years. Petitions don't really do anything, they will just say "no" to what the people ask for and move on with their agenda.

It is disheartening to see this country follow the same path the US took, it seems as our politics become more polarised, the team sports aspect means we start seeing parties push through agendas while putting their fingers in their ears. It's so easy for a politician to point score by shooting down dissent as "the other side thinks this is bad, so it means it's good".

The stated goal of Digital ID is to reduce illegal migrants from working, getting housing and using services. The obvious issue here is that they don't use traditional means to do this today, and it won't change with the introduction of this. They already hide from the state.

If we had decent opposition they'd try to kill this by mandating it HAD to be used for voting, which Labour will absolutely not want.

I would say 95% of my friend group were not born in this country, and the changes this government are making are pushing them to want to leave, and they are here legally, they have high paying jobs and skills and they feel unwanted.

For the first time in my life it seems like it makes sense to join them.

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Post by thebruce87m »

Bender wrote: post #11
dijit wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, English people still somehow tie their identity to the UK Government somehow. Scotland will not be granted another independence vote for at least 15 years, despite the last one being build upon a house of lies and nobody knows anything about what the Welsh think. I do think we’re witnessing the collapse of the UK, but more like a Roman Empire collapse - as in it’s happening over decades. Dying with a whimper, not…

Scotland needs to reinstate their king and conquer England to right the wrongs.

But how do we decide on which one of the proclaimers it would be?

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Post by poszlem »

AJRF wrote: post #21

The labour government can not be challenged in any serious way until the next election in 4 years. Petitions don't really do anything, they will just say "no" to what the people ask for and move on with their agenda. It is disheartening to see this country follow the same path the US took, it seems as our politics become more polarised, the team sports aspect means we start seeing parties push through agendas while p…

The most cynical part is that Labour spent years accusing the Tories of wanting to do this, then introduced it themselves, dressed up as a way to cut migration. And now, if you oppose the ID, they smear you as being pro–illegal immigration.

This is some very impressive politicking and exactly why many people don't trust the mainstream political parties.

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Post by dmazin »

The thing that frustrates me the most about digital ID cards is not themselves on merit but rather modern Labour's political abilities.

Like, the UK economy is stagnant, there is a cost-of-living crisis, and Labour needs to present the public with an alternative to Farage. And the answer is... digital ID cards?

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Post by mytailorisrich »

AJRF wrote: post #21

The labour government can not be challenged in any serious way until the next election in 4 years. Petitions don't really do anything, they will just say "no" to what the people ask for and move on with their agenda. It is disheartening to see this country follow the same path the US took, it seems as our politics become more polarised, the team sports aspect means we start seeing parties push through agendas while p…

Regarding tackling illegal immigration the issue is that there are already ample and sufficients checks mandated by law so this would not change anything. Indeed the main issue is that there are dodgy employers and landlords who simply flunk the law and would oviously continue to do so and ignore Digital IDs all the same.

Digital IDs would also be de facto mandatory for the majority of adult residents based on what they would be required for despite the government very clumsily saying otherwise.

The government is simply being dishonest here so that should arouse suspicion...

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

poszlem wrote: post #19

Have any of those petitions ever changed anything? I might as well shout 'I don’t want a digital ID' down the toilet, it’d be just as effective. And that’s coming from someone who’s against digital IDs.

> Have any of those petitions ever changed anything?

What's the alternative? Not do anything and hope things change by themselves? Has that worked in the past? Is doing something than better nothing?

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Post by cortic »

n4r9 wrote: post #5
SilverElfin wrote: post #2

After seeing NUMEROUS video of UK police showing up at doorsteps like the gestapo, arresting or citing or intimidating people who are simply practicing free speech, I don’t think anyone should support the government with a pathway to de-anonymize the web. Even if you support the current government, such powers will be used against you at some point.

I wonder how much you're loading into "simply practicing free speech".

It is a criminal offense in the UK to use insulting words in public, or to send any message online that anyone could find insulting or offensive (whether any one does or not is irreverent).

The Online Safety Act and Hate Crime Provision have extended these somewhat into the realms of 1984. But the police do tend to use them sparingly.

Re: UK Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

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Post by raesene9 »

SilverElfin wrote: post #2

After seeing NUMEROUS video of UK police showing up at doorsteps like the gestapo, arresting or citing or intimidating people who are simply practicing free speech, I don’t think anyone should support the government with a pathway to de-anonymize the web. Even if you support the current government, such powers will be used against you at some point.

If you're looking for evidence of the UK gov's authoritarian tendencies, you don't need to go looking at videos on Youtube, just look at the number of arrests of peaceful protestors who were given charges under terrorism legislation for holding up banners or wearing T-Shirts mentioning "Palestine Action" (ref https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/sep/25/fate-of-hund...).

Or indeed in one notable case the person who was arrested for a T-Shirt about "Plasticine action"

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