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Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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It would be nice if scientists started being just scientists again instead of activists. Hopefully being cloistered on bluesky will bring the old vibes back

my dad was an ecologist in the 70s, and did a lot of early climate change stuff (getting ground truth for LandSat, etc.)

that's always been a fun conversation

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scientists are allowed to have opinions outside of their work and share them.

It is 100% allowed, I just don't think it's really helpful or beneficial for them or society Especially when they try to lean on their status as scientists in order to try and have their opinions be more influential. The cdc for example saying it's ok to disregard their previous guidance in order to protest for black lives matter is one of these credibility damaging moments that is hard to undo.

you are lying; this did not happen.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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post #6

It would be nice if scientists started being just scientists again instead of activists. Hopefully being cloistered on bluesky will bring the old vibes back

What do you mean? Activism is an essential part of science but maybe I’m misunderstanding your use of “activist.”

I feel like scientists should be explaining to us how the world is, and then other people should use those explanations to try and improve it.

Right now I feel like there are a scientists who would hide or discard results if they contradicted their advocacy beliefs,which is a dangerous place to be imo.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scientists are allowed to have opinions outside of their work and share them.

It is 100% allowed, I just don't think it's really helpful or beneficial for them or society Especially when they try to lean on their status as scientists in order to try and have their opinions be more influential. The cdc for example saying it's ok to disregard their previous guidance in order to protest for black lives matter is one of these credibility damaging moments that is hard to undo.

> The cdc for example saying it's ok to disregard their previous guidance in order to protest for black lives matter is one of these credibility damaging moments that is hard to undo.

Yep, there it is. You’re just upset that they don’t have your opinions.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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post #6

It would be nice if scientists started being just scientists again instead of activists. Hopefully being cloistered on bluesky will bring the old vibes back

What do you mean? Activism is an essential part of science but maybe I’m misunderstanding your use of “activist.”

> ...an essential part...

Why? Which of these other jobs would you call "Activism" an essential part of:

- Fire fighter

- Elementary school teacher

- Auto mechanic

- ER nurse

- Professor of Medieval History

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Activism is an essential part of science but maybe I’m misunderstanding your use of “activist.”

I mean things like nature starting to make endorsements for president. Overly political for no reason.

They are planning on de-orbiting weather satellites because the administration doesn't believe in climate change. Nature was maybe on to something.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

#39
My academic twitter migrated to Mastodon. Most my colleagues from different universities who used to be on Twitter are there now and I do not miss not being on X. There are even servers run by organizations like ACM (Association of Computer Machinery).

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is 100% allowed, I just don't think it's really helpful or beneficial for them or society Especially when they try to lean on their status as scientists in order to try and have their opinions be more influential. The cdc for example saying it's ok to disregard their previous guidance in order to protest for black lives matter is one of these credibility damaging moments that is hard to undo.

>Especially when they try to lean on their status as scientists in order to try and have their opinions be more influential. How do they do that?

The “I am an expert, so listen to me drone about some political topic that’s vaguely related to my expertise” has been a thing for years now. And it’s usually some controversial thing that doesn’t have to do with science anyway.

In general, it makes scientists look really naive and makes them lose credibility when they talk about actual science.

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