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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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A little more surveillance might have prevented Oct 7.

A lack of surveillance wasn’t the problem. It was not believing the intelligence. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/28/israeli-milita...

Such a Monday quarterback's perspective. There is always plenty of intelligence to suggest there will be an attack

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Wow, they actually are pulling back. That is really surprising. Wonder if they see the winds changing on this issue and want to get on the right side of history. Big props to everyone at Microsoft who spoke out about this and risked or lost their jobs because of it. They kept that fire lit on their ass.

Last week a UN human rights commission found that Israel is carrying out a genocide. I think you're right that the winds have changed and now companies will shift their positions.

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Wow, they actually are pulling back. That is really surprising. Wonder if they see the winds changing on this issue and want to get on the right side of history. Big props to everyone at Microsoft who spoke out about this and risked or lost their jobs because of it. They kept that fire lit on their ass.

Sentiment toward Israel outside of USA has changed.

The leaders of the developed nations of Europe have gone against Trump and publicly stated their recognition of Palestine.

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There was an interesting point in the earlier article on this, where Microsoft tried to push their Israeli employees under a bus. They claimed their Israeli employees had lied to them about the use of Azure for war and civilian harm because they held more allegiance to their army than to Microsoft. Now obviously, this was a lie, but the implication is staggering: Microsoft can't trust it's own employees in Israel, an…

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Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no evidence whatsoever that was false flag attack. I didn't expect such blatant conspiracy theories on HN.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-ma...

This isn't evidence of a false flag attack. If I don't change the oil in my car because I'm lazy then my motor seizes I didn't "purposefully destroy my own car"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could also mean "now that someone else has seen it, we can finally act on what we have only privately seen but couldn't admit seeing"

More likely MS was well aware of what was going on and didn't care until the Guardian forced their hand.

> The disclosures caused alarm among senior Microsoft executives, sparking concerns that some of its Israel-based employees may not have been fully transparent about their knowledge of how Unit 8200 used Azure when questioned as part of the review.

Highly likely, or at least a bit naive -- Completely reasonable to have local staff for a contract this big, but Microsoft should have independently 'double-checked' sooner

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Wow, they actually are pulling back. That is really surprising. Wonder if they see the winds changing on this issue and want to get on the right side of history. Big props to everyone at Microsoft who spoke out about this and risked or lost their jobs because of it. They kept that fire lit on their ass.

Last week a UN human rights commission found that Israel is carrying out a genocide. I think you're right that the winds have changed and now companies will shift their positions.

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“I want to note our appreciation for the reporting of the Guardian,” [Microsoft’s vice-chair and president, Brad Smith] wrote, noting that it had brought to light “information we could not access in light of our customer privacy commitments”. He added: “Our review is ongoing.” Its interesting that they seem to be saying they dont know the full details of how their customers are using Azure, due to privacy commitments…

I don't know if it's _true_, but it seems right? I don't want Microsoft to have this level of visibility into my usage of Azure, just like I don't want my phone provider to eavesdrop on my conversations. I'm no privacy ayatollah, but this seems like a reasonable amount of privacy from Microsoft
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