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Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#51

This sounds amazing… basically everyone in the space is either reselling Sendgrid or AWS SES. What other "root" email services are there out there? Even Google Cloud doesn't provide one...

Mailjet, mailgun, sparkpost and a bunch of others.

Mailjet / Mailgun are one and the same service and since the acquisition, I haven't heard of anyone still happy with them. But yes good point, Mailjet is another one.

Sparkpost to my knowledge is built on SES.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#52
It's always shocking to me how many people blindly sacrifice the principles that make the things their lives depend on actually worthwhile. The internet isn't just a thing that happened, it was developed and rolled out under specific principles and vision, and violating those principles destroys the system.

The internet doesn't work if Matthew Prince gets to act as global gatekeeper, or if CloudFlare gets conscripted as the new PRISM or NSA censorship and surveillance apparatus whether they want it or not. Given the profit incentives and intense pursuit of control, it's apparent (to me, at least) they're positioning themselves to profit off of the next big horsemen of the infocalypse opportunity.

Centralized control and gatekeeping of the internet, private or otherwise, should be shunned. Sacrificing that for walled garden features is despicable.

Don't shit in the village well, even if the guy selling bottled water says he'll get you a great deal. There are better ways of doing things.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#53
post #5

Great move. Will probably switch to it immediately from Sendgrid as soon as it goes GA. Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects.

smtp2go.com offers a free tier with 1,000 emails/month. I’ve been using it for a few small services I run and haven’t had any issues so far.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#54
post #5

Great move. Will probably switch to it immediately from Sendgrid as soon as it goes GA. Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects.

Try https://mailpace.com The lowest plan $40/year for 1k emails/month isn’t on the Pricing page, but you can select it when signing up.

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Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#55
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Eventually all Internet protocols will be MITMed by cloudflare. Your single point of interception!

And then they'll offer to 'protect' you from AI scrapers for a fee and then bulk negotiate against Google, etc for another fee.

If you use an old web browser, lots of sites are already not usable because Cloudfare's CAPTCHA will deny you entry.

New but non-standard niche browsers are also problematic.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#56
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It's unfortunate that email hosting and email infrastructure can really be done only well by major players. The days of people running and maintaining their own are pretty much long gone. Fwiw, not a knock against CF. I like their products, mostly simple, fair pricing, etc. Just a bit unfortunate commentary on the state of email infra on the internet.

This is a myth though (with some truth to it in certain cases). I've run my own mail infrastructure since 1999, no issues.

I suspect if you shared more info about your mail infrastructure, it might reveal that what is working for you is too complicated for 99.9% of people to set up and maintain themselves.

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#57
Interesting development. Not really sure I trust Cloudflare on this one, the last time they tried this with "MailChannels" they got a bunch of people to use it and then killed it off a few months later. Still, their blog post was never updated to say the feature was removed: https://blog.cloudflare.com/sending-email-from-workers-with-...

Re: Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

#60
post #5

Great move. Will probably switch to it immediately from Sendgrid as soon as it goes GA. Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects.

> Sendgrid recently killed their free tier (100 emails per day) and their lowest plan is now $20/month for 50,000 emails. It's totally overkill for low traffic projects. With a pricing structure like that it appears they became too tired of verifying/validating users to not send spam. Unfortunately I don't blame them.

$10/year for 10,000 messages/year is 10 cents per message. (Or some other volume at 10 cents/message.) Surely too high for spammers but cheap enough for an app with a low message volume.
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