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That’s brutal.. I wonder why the Apple Silicon transition seemed so much smoother in comparison.
Because it was handled by the only tech company left that actually cares about the end user. Not exactly a mystery.
Their top model still only has "Up to 228 GB/s" bandwdith which places it in the low end category for anything AI related, for comparison Apple Silicon is up to 800GB/s and Nvidia cards around 1800GB/s and no word if it supports 256-512GB of memory.
Most Apple Silicon is much less than 800 GB/s.
The base M4 is only 120GB/s and the next step up M4 Pro is 273GB/s. That’s in the same range as this part.
It’s not until you step up to the high end M4 Max parts that Apple’s memory bandwidth starts to diverge.
For the target market with long battery life as a high priority target, this memory bandwidth is reasonable. Buying one of these as a local LLM machine isn’t a good idea.
Their top model still only has "Up to 228 GB/s" bandwdith which places it in the low end category for anything AI related, for comparison Apple Silicon is up to 800GB/s and Nvidia cards around 1800GB/s and no word if it supports 256-512GB of memory.
> Their top model still only has "Up to 228 GB/s" bandwdith which places it in the low end category for anything AI related, for comparison Apple Silicon is up to 800GB/s Most Apple Silicon is much less than 800 GB/s. The base M4 is only 120GB/s and the next step up M4 Pro is 273GB/s. That’s in the same range as this part. It’s not until you step up to the high end M4 Max parts that Apple’s memory bandwidth starts to…
If Snapdragon (or ARM players in general) wanted to challenge x86 and Apple dominance, do they need to compete in the exact same arena? Could they carve out a niche (example: ultra-efficient always-on machines) and then expand?
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How's the compatibility? Are there any apps that don't work that are critical?
Have I had any app compatibility issues? To quote Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 3, Line 87: "No." The Prism binary emulation for x86 apps that don't have an ARM equivalent has been stellar with near-native performance (better than Rosetta in macOS). And I've tried some really obscure stuff!
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Surface Pro 11 owner here. SQL Server won't install on ARM without hacks. Hyper-V does not support nested virtualization on ARM. Most games are broken with unplayable graphical glitches with Qualcomm video drivers, but fortunately not all. Most Windows recovery tools do not support ARM: no Media Creation Tool, no Installation Assistant, and recovery drives created on x64 machines aren't compatible [EDIT: see reply, I…
That’s brutal.. I wonder why the Apple Silicon transition seemed so much smoother in comparison.
If Snapdragon (or ARM players in general) wanted to challenge x86 and Apple dominance, do they need to compete in the exact same arena? Could they carve out a niche (example: ultra-efficient always-on machines) and then expand?
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> when do we get descent macbook air competitors When laptop OEMs stop catering to the lowest common denominator corporate IT purchasers (departments which don't care about screen quality, speaker quality, or much of anything else outside of does the spec sheet on paper match our requirements and is it cheap).
I have a Yoga Slim 7x, which has the ARM. Screen quality is fantastic along with build quality, touchpad and keyboard feel :shrug: It really depends on what Laptop line you buy. Dells have overwhelmingly become garbage, right next to HP. Speaker quality on a laptop oth? Couldn't care less, I use headphones/earbuds 99% of the time because If I'm going portable computer, I'm traveling and I don't want to be an inconsid…
These all have nightmarish support. They're not a big deal for Qualcomm so the driver support is garbage. And you're stuck on their kernel like one of those Raspberry Pi knock offs. It's just really hard to take them seriously. Ironically M1 chip is better supported on Linux.
Not a single benchmark even against the previous generation. Just a "legendary leap in performance".